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Post your desired wiz build after revamp!

Class and Rank Wizard
#261

I’m having doubts. Please leave an advise! I figured I’d post it here since everyone is posting their wizard builds afterall

I"m pretty new to the wizard world, I’ve recently made a elementalist 3 and it was way beyond my expectations. I can easily solo mobs on dungeons, it’s good on both mob or boss kills. If I had to compare my experience on playing other class, it’s like playing doppel without the risk of dying and having a good aoe along side with it.

Now my dilemma is with the new transcendence announcement going on, I’m planning to make only two magic toons. Cleric and Wizard. I’d like to finalize my Wizard build soon, even though Elementalist 3 is really good, I haven’t had any experience at all with the different classes that wizard offers. I’ve taken interest in Linker 3, is it any good for a build?

My current build set is : Wiz3-Ele3-Rc-Not yet sage 2 but planning
Builds I’m considering:

  1. Wiz3-Link3-Rc-sage 2 or Shadow2
  2. Wiz3-Cyro3-rc-sage2
  3. Wiz 3-Thaum3-Rc-Shadow2

What are your thoughts in Link 3 and Cyro 3? Is it good on Cm? Are these builds viable at all at solmiki / possible raid dg soon?

I’m getting fairly hyped up for the first time in a while since I’m dealing fairly good amount of damage compared to my other toons before.

Thank you~

#262

Hey all, i want to know which build is right now the better of this 2 wiz3>ele3>FF>Sage2, wiz3>ele3>Sorcere>Sage2 or wiz3>ele3>FF3? ele 3 do the work of killing mobs and sage/FF do the job of killing bosses.

#263
  1. very good m debuff character, can do a lot of things but if you focus on hardcore content it will still lack some strength in the dps aspect so you will be focused more on support role with linker new changes; something to take notice; wiz3 is not really necessary so i would like to point out a few things:if you focus on the base amount spr (3x-250-300 sprmax) to gain the 3x damage from spirit shock, you can go this build without problems, but if you somehow want to go full spr i recommend going for wiz2linker 3 rc sorc1 sage2, sorc1 with full spr will really boost your overall dps by a lot.

wiz3 is not needed for rc sage and cyro, the new runes have only 2 sec cast so is not hard to cast without QC and so on, but overall cyro right now is pure garbage and i’m being nice by calling it that, but not everything is lost i doubt that imc will let cyro be as it is, and without doubt it will buff it again in the future, the question is only “when”.

wiz 2-3 again is not needed for the build you mentioned even more since thauma3 already gives quickcast; now if you are going shadow 2 the best option without any doubt is FF1, because FF 1 have curse and as this patch curses boosts shadow damage by 50% and with ff1 you not only would gain 50% more damage for shadow skills, you would also gain the ability to heal yourself, so ff1 in the past was already a very good stand alone class because it’s ability to heal the wizard, now with this curse things is the must go choice for shadow2 without doubt.

wiz3>ele3>FF>Sage2
all 3 builds are good; but like i wrote before if you are going for ff1 filler would be better to combo with with shadowmancer, because of the curse buff you will reach far more damage than going sage2, but again this does not mean that sage2 is a bad choice for this build as well.
wiz3>ele3>Sorcere>Sage2
this one is pretty standard past the spr sorc buff, it will have more damage than the previous one if you focus the spr path but you will lose the ability to heal with ff1, in the end the three builds are good and stronger, they did not differ alot between each other, the only thing to keep in mind is like i wrote before, if you are going for ff1, shadow 2 would be far better option than sage2 and not only that.

FF will give you more sustain with the heal plus +damage if you choice shadow2, but in the end if you really want sage2 go for the sorcerer1 sage2, spr path, it will be better.

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#264

Spr would be more for sorc, thauma and Chrono mainly, right?

About the linker and spr relationship, I didn’t know. In https://tos.neet.tv/skills/20407 doesn’t mention it.

For me, a sage could have thauma and just need linker rank 2 . This way it got stronger as the attacks are based on magic attack and the sage skill factors is one of highest. Also, the biggest advantage is the neutral attack, which could be good in any case

#265 
Spirit Shock: Mental Pressure
* Magic defense of enemies hit by [Spirit Shock] decreases by 25%

Additional damage increases by the difference of SPR between the attacker’s and target’s

  • Additional damage does not exceed max. 300%
  • Increases SP consumption by 50%

the difference of 3x spr, gains 3x damage, as someone stated once the ktos patch have launched, last boss 360 have up to 100 spr, so 300 would already allows to reach almost 90% of all monsters, if you want of course to maximize the damage from this skill, the skill would go up 1k% per hit, at max attribute+ the spr difference.

Linker3 also gives 30% magic damage bonus with his new skills and to have the -25% magic defense also needs linkers3, simple put without linker 3, there is nothing that linkers offers besides jp, and with linkers 3 you would gain up to 1k% skill per hit+ mdebuff of 25% plus 30% m atk bonus from the other skill, this alone would boost up the last classes damage by up 50% or more, once you add this as 4-5 wizard in pt, is where linkers shines! as debuff supp

#266

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#213444h3ee.1125334155.112a3a415375.1f2131588a6575.15254451.113a4a518291a5

was thinking of starting my first mage with this cryo2-kino3-RC-sage2. is it good?? should I change any skills around??? any tips for levelling???

#267

I wrote something, then got internal server error. I think forum is telling me to keep quiet about it, so I will edit and just give you the 3 top meta wizard builds for dragon raid:
wiz3 ele3 warlock3
linker3 thauma3 rune
linker3 chrono3 rune

#268

Do you know why link3 is so favored? Lifeline con int spr?

#269

Why runecaster in a mainly support build?

#270

Probably the best choice for 1 circle. Magic defense -15% with rune of destruction, rune of ice +50% for elememe friends, and survivability/mobility when you need it with rune of giant?

#271

Rune of Destruction gives Mdef break too, I guess. Also, in case of the Wiz2-Link3-Thau3-RC, it is good for farming

#272

What if you summon with the Staff and keep with it? The damage is still larger than summon with rod and keeping rod?

#273

I’ll test it tonight :slight_smile:

#274

Spirit chain share rune of protection. At dragon raid boss you don’t want to get hit a lot to proc gazing golem card, sometimes timing is bad and it will cancel your important skills. Have magic def break to support magic damage as bonus feature, and lifeline to share stats, especially the full CON of the supports.
Lifeline attribute to nullify attacks with a % chance is quite decent too.
Spirit chain attribute to help magic allies.
Important raid mobs resist most CC but cannot resist link.

Players also tried sage1 instead of rune caster but bosses use more physical attacks.

Just the choice of the top guild/teams for raid. It was popularized due to guide/video/forum, and players like to imitate it because it was shown to work (raid cleared efficiently). There is a time limit on raid.

You do not have to follow this build, it will depend on your team composition.

#275

I don’t try already shadowmancer but i don’t lke because it use toooo much sp i will have to be full spr so idk, and sage have good pull spell and works fine for that i choose sage.

#276

I also prefer Sage over Shadow for most cases. Sage DPS is a lot more reliable

#277

For the past few days I’ve been playing around with pyro3-psycho3-sage2, and I have to say this build is pretty good and very fun to play. 2 overheats of dimension compression and 1 of Magnetic force makes grouping mobs easy.

Pyro3 has rather low skill factors, but the cooldowns are so short and they do so many hits, so its not a huge problem, while psycho3 has great CC and has good synergy with pyro3.

And sage2, has higher skill factors but longer cooldowns, and goes well with the psycho3 CC. Since they increased the cast speed of sage’s ultimate and micro dimension, the class has become much better. Also, froster lord cards are very good because there are so many multihits in this build. Does pretty good dps at sausys9 CMs, even when using just a +11 regard staff(with lvl7 red gems, no transcendance).

Just for reference, my stats are full Int and I use this skill distribution(I am thinking about removing flare though, since I rarely use it) https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21222444ee.354555.112f4d715a65.1f5a8a6575.113a4a8391a5

I also tried pyro3-psycho3-enchanter2, but I found this one to be worse than sage2, because there’s barely any time to use auto-attacks thanks to the low cooldowns of pyro3. Still pretty good though, trades sage2 dps for enchanter2 support skills and the ability to make Flame ground and Enchant Fire scrolls.

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#278

Hm… Now that I looked deeper into runecaster, seems like the 2 attack skills have quite nice damage. How would you guys build a cryo-kino-enchanter? Wiz-cryo3-kino3-enchant2 or wiz-cryo2-kino3-RC-enchanter?

Edit: @tampon why do you prefer sage over shadowmancer? And why do you think sage’s DPS is more reliable?

@Zeucleio I have the same set up, except with shadowmancer2 instead of sage2. For pyromancer skill points, I max fireball (fireball+psychic pressure combo) and flame ground lv13, 1 point in enchant fire (occasional auto attack) and 1 point in firewall (knock back). You’re right, with such low cooldown flare is rarely necessary, but it is such a strong skill. I’m not sure if I should max firewall too. Pyro has quite a few good selections now…

#279

@Norskalkymisten if you focus the 3xx spr status so you can reach the 3x damage with the skill, is enough to support the sp use of shadowmacer
@gexmnlin13

i do not really recommend going enchanter 2 kinocryo, they simple do not mix well, since as enchanter 2 you will really want to use lighting hands all the time and not cryo kino skills but if you want to folllow this path the status for enchanter 2 builds is simple; focus on dex until you do not see any more progress with the attack speed (since is a lot ping dependent, you must try it out), then you put con the rest, the increment of damage given by int with this left points are too low to make anything out of it, so is better to focus on HP .

as i stated before as well, cryo right now is not at the best place, and i believe you will have a lot of problems if you choice this build, they simple do not work well together; lighting hands x so many channeling skills from kino, do not mix well, so would be better for you to swap enchanter for sage-shadow , or remove kino-cryo .

for enchanter 2 as previous stated here the best one should really be linker-rc or even chrono variation, since those classes offers “buffs” and let you be free to cast lighting hands as main damage skill without problems.

about sage being reliable, i’m not tampom but i can also give you a insight; sage skills have far more brute damage with the new attributes, simple put you use less skills to achieve more damage!, this is balanced by the cd of sage skills that are a little higher than shadow, but let’s be honest real cd x utility cd is not the same, since you can use the time from running to one place to another to recover sage cd’s without too much problems.

but still with the new changes of shadow damage + curse, with ff1 i do believe shadow damage is higher now than sage, where sage can use sleep/lethargy + skill to increase sage’s damage , the ability from curses is far easily to find and higher in the game, so shadow would have a overall better dps.

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#280

I find Sage’s DPS to be more reliable because they don’t suck against flying targets. They also require a lot less SP if you remove the unnecessary attributes. Then, you also get to combo Lethargy with Ultimate Dimension, and all three DPS skills with Sleep : Dream Eater