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Post your desired wiz build after revamp!

Well im agree with @tampon about the flying mobs, and the sp cosumition is so high for shadow but im not sure what take betewen ele3 and sage sorc and FF1 are my ideas.
Now acording with what @nery_ma says yeah the curse shadow mix sound really good but if i take shadow is not better take sorc1 because i already have high spr i can use a good summon too. and if i go full spr i dont lose much power of been full int?

Edit : there is another option, and is so metabut is going to WL3, but first i dont like the last rank of warlock and second, if i choose these one maybe have a RC could be a good idea for rune of justice.

I think you can go FF1 sage, it gives you good recovery and curse still helping your damage, i will try the shadowmancer i think sounds pretty intersting but if you choose FF you need to got the intrasautra gloves.

I think that if you can afford to take FF1, you might as well go FF3. Kundela Slash does massive damage.

FF is the class I got to try and really get bothered by “omg it’s so strong but I don’t like how it plays”. Really the only reason I don’t like it is because it has to go melee

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don’t really agree with you on that; ff1 offers self heals and shadow damage bonus with curse that is a lot 50%, that is the only class that gives this on the wizard tree, so if other classes takes benefit from it , good!, where ff2-ff3 offers damage and some minor defensive abilities with some skills like levitate that allows you to evade melee hits , but in this sense each one the ranks 7-8-9 classes offers something similar in a sense, like sage’s shield, or shadowmancer pool, or even wl spirits that can take hit for you, , so damage by damage and minor defensive ability every later class in the wizard ranks have it but of course some are better than others! but in the end self heal and curse, with relative good cd in the wizard , only ff1.

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So technically 300-ish SPR is enough for Spriti Chain too hit it’s max SPR multiplier?

Say for a build like Wiz2 Link3 Kino2 Shadow2, 300-ish SPR for Link3 and to support Shadow2’s SP usage, and with a high Transcend weap, it should deal pretty decent damage?

Also assuming that build would be more support oriented, yes? Compared to something like FF1-Shadow2?

I only tested a few builds so far:

  • Wiz3 Cryo1 Ele3 WL1 RC - good damage with Ice Pike + Electrocute, Mastema + Rune of Justice and Isa + Hail. Although weaker than the classic Elelock build, it brings more utility for your party.
  • Wiz2 Cryo2 Kino3 Sage2 - I’m in love with this one. Great mix between hard CC and damage. You’re able to stunlock enemies on Challenge Mode with a neverending wave of CC and damaging skills: Snow Rolling + Magnetic Force + Ice Pike + Heavy Gravity + Ultimate Dimension + Gravity Pole. Almost no downtime thanks to Gravity Pole.
  • Wiz3 Thaum1 Sorc2 Alch3 - a not-so-useless Alchemist that’s able to do a few things on its own. +10% damage for your Marnox and the strike-specialty attribute for Lethargy. Magic Missile has a hidden interaction with Swell Left Arm. Can also annoy people on PvP with Sleep + Shrink Body + Alchemistic Missile (bonus damage from [Sleep: Dream Eater] attribute). Replace Alchemist with Necromancer and you’ll have a great summoner build.

So many good choices and opinions @_@ I’m so happy there are so many players willing to put in the hard work in testing and sharing the information. Thanks all!

Here’s what I’m gonna do. I will test out builds as much as possible. Completely reset all my wizard characters before maintenance on April 10th, see which builds are popular, then decide my build based on the popular ones, if they suit my playstyle that is.

DO NOT COPY ME! I need the statistics on the top 100 class builds lol.

Edit: @Pokart you know what’s funny? I actually just made an alchemist build exactly like yours today. Full SPR btw.

What’s your recommended stat distribution for the Alchemist build. Also, would the build work with anything besides sorcerer?

Mine’s full SPR, I’m totally focused on the summon’s damage. I tested all that stuff, but I only do Saalus runs with this character. I’ve heard Alchemist farmer works (Wiz2 Linker2 Thaum2 Alch3), but that’s already the case before the Wiz rework patch. Alchemist builds aren’t that flexible, but it’s okay, since Alchemist isn’t really supposed to be an active character. You can try something like Wiz3 Linker2 RC Alch3 or Wiz3 Ele3 Alch3 (Wiz2 Cryo1 Ele3 Alch3 works too). Btw, you can have some fun equipping Ice Pike on your Homunculus.

@gexmnlin13 Yeah! It’s hard to find a viable build for Alchemist, but I think I’ll settle with this one. Riding has always been comfy.

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I did Wiz2 Link3 Rc Alch3

Works well with all that MDEF reductions, party support with Link3, and pretty decent damage as well.

For everyone, I need some insights for a non-Thauma shadow build! I’m deciding between

  • Wiz2 Link3 Kino2 Shadow2

Link3 support, Kino2 for heavy gravity to help Shadow

  • Wiz2 Kino2 Chrono3 Shadow

Real nice build by @tampon, love the Kino CC and Chrono utility. My only concern is how good Chrono3 actually is compared to Linked

  • Wiz x Link3 x FF1 Shadow2

FF1 shadow for the 50% boost, and Link3 to fit with the grouping strength needed by FF and Shadow. Would be more offsensive build than the above two, but I’m open to what the x could be.

Other suggestions are welcome as well

who has a thaum3 enchanter2 full attribute?? will you keep your build?? couz im thinking of keeping it or reworking it again…

If I understand you rigthly is better have FF1 than sorc 1 in his build? Because right now I will make some of this build and I feel interested in try the sorc-shadow2

I was fortunate to get a Marnox card yesterday. But dammit, I should of worked harder for this card before the Legend card system showed up - now it’s much harder to level it.

Would a Spirit Shock Summon build work, or should I go full summon(S2/Necro 3)and leave out L3 in my SPR build?

Hi guys i was looking for information about rune of ice from runecaster since its description says increase ice magic property 50% but dont says what skills. I heard only works with hail (elementalist) but none of cryomancer skills. If anyone has test it already after revamp thx

It works for any skill that says [Ice] in the skill desc. All cryo skills, hail, freezing sphere, and Onmyoji’s water skill are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

There’s a difference between normal Marnox cards and Legendary Marnox though, isn’t it? The normal Marnox card will be leveled the same way as usual.

Guys,

Which build for CryoKino would you guys recommend?

  1. Wiz1>Cryo3>Kino3>Enc2. Enc 2 for lightning attribute to PP and GP to sync with freezing skills from Cryo. Downside is I don’t think I will be utilizing lightning hands that much since I would be spamming Cryo Kino skills most of the time.

  2. Wiz1>Cryo3>Kino3>Sage2. Ultimate dimension and micro dimension for extra damage. Does it sync well with heavy gravity? Like to make flying mobs grounded so my sage skills (not sure which dimension) will hit.

  3. Wiz>Cryo3>Kino3>RC>???. For rune of ice although the boost isn’t that significant. Maybe Wiz2 as the last filler so that I have surespell to cast my RC skills? Utility from rune of protection and rune of giants.

Appreciate all the comments i can get.

Oh? The old one still exists? No matter, I’m content with the legendary version. I do wonder how strong it is though…

yeah,last time i check the highest new boss only had up to 100-120 spr, and most bosses even demon lord’s have far less than that, take for example the new bosses:
demon lord zaura:

HP SP STR CON INT SPR DEX DEF MDEF ATK MATK SFR
2 064 149 793 2 984 155 60 155 60 73 16321 16321 5 809 ~ 8 714 5 809 ~ 8 714 450%

have only 60 spr, so you would need 180, most of them have more or less this value as well 60-80, only some very specify bosses have 100 and those are rare, so by going 300 you are far safe already, you can even but less than that if you want.

yeah; kino2 combs well with shadow 2 because it removes the problem of flying enemy but overall i would still recommend ff1 if you want to choice shadow2, simple because ff1 would already give 50% damage for shadow with curse, this would also revert the penalty of attacking flying enemies (that is also 50%) but you would only use one rank, and gain heal, so if you are going to take shadow 2, add it ff1, if not,sage also do a very good job without any problems as well.
if we look simple in the overall aspect; with that build +ff1, you will have 30% extra m atk; -25 mdef reduction 50% dark damage; and ability to heal yourself, this alone will make the character really stronger! and even more, if you put con-spr- and so on, you will also be able to be tanker; and this would still give you one slot free because ff1 is only one rank and kino2 is 2, but if you really want kino, i recommend to wait for that omyiouji, there is some nice synergy with PP range +fox with it, something like wiz3 kino3 omyiouji, seems to really be the nice spot for a kino dps wizard build!

there is not really a need for all this planning anymore, at least not in the future, since imc will allows us to share trans equips, you can always re create a character in the future if is not to your liking; of course this would come with the downside of losing attribute money,but imc also have put news about a new attribute point given system so if you are playing everyday with that new system, getting attribute for at least 50% in all skills is not hard, without even needing to put money on it, only time!

@siryal2110
sorc 1 would give more overall low level dps (since at higher level boss, the summon are dying really fast(ps;i’m not saying that sorc dps is bad by calling low level, but that since at higher level content like cm 5+wb the summon is dying too fast and thus would not work well in some cases, and thus i called it low level dps in the sense that work in low level content like salus-dg’s and so on, unless you have someone tanking for you all the time ^^)
also if you choice to go sorc you will need to be full spr and thus would not have a lot of left over points for con and so on, in the end is hard to know how will have higher dps in normal daily routine, but in the end demon lord battle, ff1shadow2 would be better without doubt,because you will have left over points for con, more defense-, would have to worry about your summon dying and thus lost of dps, and can always give that healing when dying as well.
i’m really torn and i cannot say that going sorc1 would be bad but not going ff1 with shadow2 right now is without doubt a bad choice ,since the build simple allows it to be without needing to really sacrifice anything, rank7 for shadow2 is a filler rank and ff1 as filler is the perfect fit for it. .

@maganimousflame
yes, the new legendary cards if you put in the slot, have up to 10x more status than a normal card, i do not remember what marnox gives in my head right now but taking zaura-nuele for example, a normal cad level 10 give s10% defense or m defense, where the new legendary card gives 100% defense of m defense, simple put it doubles the defense you choice with those two cards.

In my opinion cryo3-kino3-enchanter2 makes most sense because of lightning gravity pole and PP, but I have not tested it yet. I think nery_ma replied me that this build is not recommended a few posts above, you can read the explanation.