If player hasn’t input movement keys for 15 mins, then disable auto attacking.
Fairly simple solution. This also stops players from putting turbo mode on their controller (not needing to hold attack button down).
Though people could likely macro movement keys to auto-attacking, but then you are just botting so… no more grey area there.
it shouldnt be allowed at all, the game would end up having afk archers on several maps…which isn’t really different from botting if you look at it
I like this solution a lot.
I think Z-botting is too easy to do to result in any sort of permanent ban. Anyone who starts playing ToS and is unfamiliar with the rules will quickly find out that they can just place an object on their Z-key and afk - so some ignorant people will probably do that.
Z-botting is essentially a ‘feature’ with how easy IMC made it. Even though I do not think z-botting should be allowed, I do not think I can say that I think people should be punished for using a feature of the game.
That is why I have been mob-dropping Z-botters to get them killed, instead of reporting them.
Z-botting should either;
Be disabled. Make it so you can’t hold Z for longer than ~30 secs at a time before you stop attacking.
Result in a warning for a first offence, temp ban for 2nd. So people at least get a warning instead of a sudden, unexpected ban.
Yes, it should be easy enough to implement and it wouldn’t affect the actual normal gameplay in any way.
@Daenerys I think so too. Perma bans on first offence would be too harsh.
The idea of this poll itself is to find out how the playerbase thinks about the matter in general though.
This doesn’t mean suggestions for proper punishment and other discussion about this matter aren’t welcome on this thread but I’m saying this just to make it sure: I want that everyone will keep voting for what is asked on OP and not whether Z-botting should be worth permanent bans, morning newspaper delivered all wrinkled from now on and laxatives for his dog. Threads easily get derailed after few dozens of replies on these forums 
Someone was banned for it: Got banned for holding Z
How’s that for an answer on it? Whether it was correctly carried out or not, if you do it, you run the risk of being banned. Is being lazy worth your account? You decide.
But the most recent news pretty much says the opposite. That’s why I created this poll, to get more definite and official answer on this matter.
I also wanted to make sure that they have properly thought about the idea how this would allow one form of safe botting for gold sellers too. Currently you are not allowed to report them if they decide to stick with just autoattack and not moving around.
They were banned for botting almost definitely. They are just trying to squirm out of it.
It just says the bot report function isn’t the appropriate way to report Z-AFKers because it’ll mess with their heuristics. You can still report them through regular tickets.
As I said in another post, anything influencing your gameplay (besides you as a player) outside of the game is, in fact, a 3rd party. Earning a ■■■■ amount of silver while afk (outside of the market) is still an advantage. This should absolutely be a punishable offense (though I think it should be a suspension instead of a ban).
IMC plz track 18% people vote yes and ban them all please.
If you do that, I will buy 10 more tier1 FP
Good point, I haven’t thought about it that way. But how are they going to separate bots behaving like that and actual Z-afkers? Recording it, uploading the video on youtube and submitting tickets is way more tedious so gold farmers would be pretty much safe if they started using this method instead once they manage to get high leveled enough.
They need separate in-game report option for Z-botters if this is actually the only reason they don’t want Z-botters being reported. It would solve the problem and not mess up with the other categories of bots. Or optionally they could implement a system that prevents you auto attacking after a while of not moving, like was suggested before.
Now we already have two possible general ideas how to tackle this problem and after 83 votes it seems vast majority of playerbase seems to be against Z-botters too 
@duytueha Please, no troll posting yet. This thread has been pretty good for summarizing stuff around this matter 
my opinion is ban them all botters, including z-botters and whoever support that stupid idea.
why stupid?
imagine a freaking 280lv archer camp on lv 10 map to hunt items for his collection. Sound stupid yet?
Yes it does sound stupid to me too, but people should still be free to give their opinion. If it turned out that majority actually supported Z-botting, it would be something the playerbase wants and deserves.
No one should be banned just for opinions as long as they aren’t shouting full Hitler tier stuff and claiming it “just being an opinion”. But actually playing like their opinion should be punished, in my opinion. Not everyone who thinks this Z-botting is okay and not that much of a problem probably does so themselves(?).
Player A puts a heavy object to autoattack while AFK
Why do people want to do this? To gain something by doing nothing.
Player B uses a program to autoattack while AFK
Why do people bot? to gain something by doing nothing.
Even if you’re not using a program to do it, it is still automated and shouldn’t be allowed.
I think they should just get a temp ban though and have it be longer bans for repeat offences.
My opinion always was, if you want to play the game play it yourself… Not having the game play itself to your convenience.
Sigh… People with bad comprehension.
Why not try reading again, and show us where it says z botting is fine. Asking you not to use report bot function for z botters is not the same as z botting is OK. The news is to inform you that part of their anti bot system has a flaw(the safety mechanism against report abuse).
This anti-abuse mechanism revolves around an assigned valve term as RII. If you report z botters, the anti abuse mechanism will kick in(flaw), thus IMC warns user against using the report function on z botters.
No need to ban z botters. All IMC need to do is disable the ability to z bot.
In many mmorpg, there is a limit to consecutive attack before you totally stop attacking.
All IMC has to do is set a 200 z-attack limit. I believe 200 is reasonable. With it, jamming your Z key is useless. Of course players can set macro to move their character by a single step every 100 attack or so. But this immediately put them into “botters that made use of 3rd party program”
Thanks for input but this was actually mentioned already by trielav.
And those actually favouring Z-botting use that part of the announcement to defend their playing behaviour. Which is why I explained why I wanted to make this poll and get clarification.
And it’s not like that one was mentioned as well already. And my point wasn’t about banning them but how to tell these two groups apart in the current system.
should not be allowed what? or be what? dont be allowed the z button or dont care about the z buton aand is ok?? write more specific the poll brother for all the poeple with bad english