I like how Team Fortress 2 does things. Hats on hats and funny dancing taunts. Maybe IMC can learn from the model that made TF2.
constructive? i can’t even bring myself to try.
you’re part of the community, some of your comment are genuinely great such as about homonculus and etc, man how i want homonculus but. you’re just! whatever. enjoy your forum trolling.
Nop, it’s not stupid, if people enjoy then why not have? lol
exactly…kinda hard to make a proper poll about this - probably 99% of the votes cant be taken serious - cause? we dont know how most future fashions look like…nobody is like “i WILL pay 25$ on fashions this month no matter what happens” ive never met a guy who payed 25 Bucks constantly on fashion each month - it varies on what kind of fashion is being included monthly - if theres “monthly fashions worth 25$” i even doubt that - as another guy mentioned its limited for a game like ToS - look at ragnarok and how many headgears they had in shop
somebody talked about tera - well ya 200$ to get a new ride x.x “sounds good” - youve seen maybe 3-4 of these mounts on each server - or invest a couple $ to gamble for one - 0,00001% chance per try to get it…“sounds good” people forget that such packs included costly and rare in game items as well - reason enough for a new “p2w” thread from people who claim everything in shop is p2w
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I got you
no need for long explain, we’re all free to say whatever lol.
i will literally pay $100 if i could buy every cute thing in the shop. if all of its ugly fashion like in some games, i will pay nothing. why can’t they just have cute stuff in the cash shop?
This, so much!
Why does imc need to be defended? They know their financial situation better than any of us. If they actually can’t afford what myself or others have proposed or if they’d rather not due to risk aversion or greed or whatever reason, then they’ll just ignore it. Simple.
I know why I’m worked up in my posts, because as a fan I see some monetization strategies that I believe will drive other potential consumers and fans away.
So what does one hope to accomplish by defending the status quo? If one says “look this company needs to make money, we should just accept things as they are”, is that convincing to potential wary customers? I personally don’t think so…
Ok then if thats so its not play to win then I’m ok with that. Looking at it doesn’t look like they actually intend to be greedy or that much unfair but I do hope they could set some of the services as an option on their own or smaller optional bundle packs to make it easier on someone as poor as me. Besides vanity, which is usually a buy once item and something I buy the most of, I would be willing to buy some of those services if they were on their own or in smaller bundles. (I’m in a predicament where I can’t afford a $20 subscription at this very moment which is probably going to be like that for a few months I would at the very least be able to meet them half way and still benefit even if it was without some of the other services.)
the problem with the cash shop being just vanity items is that it’ll become a one time sell and that will hinder profit and if it hinders profit then they might decide to become P2P instead of F2P but that’ll be a long shot because they’re also considering the players. So don’t worry too much because they’ll probably stick to F2P because the community will be outraged.
Dood, let imc worry about their own profits. As fans/consumers, we should be advocating what we think would be best for the game.
If we ignore this whole “imc needs profits” nonsense (because imc can and will take care of themselves), does anyone actually believe that having gray transactions like exp buff scrolls and magic scrolls would actually draw more players? Maybe I’m wrong, but I feel like a vast majority of players would agree that more players would be interested in this game if it didn’t have those really gray ‘F2P’ elements.
Agreed.
Or they will say “We are not making enough profit off this game so its not profitable enough to keep it running.” Then shut it down which is something I’ve also seen happen.
Did you for a second think that maybe they’re thinking carefully about every decisions that they make? You see, IMC is a company, and within a company there’re business strategists and professionals at that field. meaning it was well researched decision backed with statistics and facts. So, I respect your opinion, but do you have any evidence to back your argument about them being greedy? My point, you don’t know anything about the business side of it, so please stop your bullsh*t and just play the goddamn game. nobody is forcing you to pay. If you pay for something, the its your decision not theirs.
You believe that exp scrolls are not needed and will draw in more players? really? Because you believe doesn’t really mean that it’ll happen. I’ve seen many games shut down because of profit being too low and also have you seen the team that created the whole effin’ game? Do you seriously think that they have no salaries? and do you seriously think that they don’t need profit? Come on, you’re the one that is nonsensical in here. Also, the greatest goal for a game is its longevity, so did you not know that maybe the money that they will earn from that will be invested in the game development and such? here’s a fact, game development takes lots of hours and money to do, they’ve probably spent millions in the development, so considering it having a nice gameplay and graphics for an F2P game is already a treat. so please stop these kinds of threads because if they want to have profit, they deserve it. Noone is forcing anyone to spend money, so please, do me a favor and just play the game.
Yes… so well researched we almost got a 3 months founder package, they clearly knew exactly what they were doing… /s
They shut down because publishers are unhappy with lack of profits. One example:
NetDevil is not a developer that gives up. Its first title, Jumpgate, is still operational after nine years, though it never achieved the subscriber numbers of Auto Assault. If not for publisher NCsoft, Auto Assault might still be in operation today.
Last I recall, imc’s iToS publisher will basically be Valve… So everything is on imc for the iToS version. I guess we’ll find out if imc wants their game to survive regardless or if they’re more like Nexon.
As I have previously described, there are so many numerous examples of f2p games that don’t have features that I and many others think are likely too close to p2w for comfort. I’ve put in $10 to give this game a whirl come the the 29th. But if the signs I’ve been seeing turn out to have been true, then I’m out. Developers need to make a profit, sure, but if their monetization practices are not sustainable in terms of maintaining a loyal and interested player base then they’ll still fail.
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so you know better? with the poll of 344 votes. okay
No changes to the Token move speed means I’m never going to pay for this game. 
Otherwise I’ll buy a token every month and maybe buy 1~2 cosmetic every 3 months or so. As I do in league now.
WELL SPOKEN!!
I’m hoping that they didn’t just shoot themselves in the foot over that. Many Korean mmos have not been making it recently and shutting down really early. They will be relying on this community for money to keep it running and its likely they will be depending on the cash mall for enough profits to keep it running.
They probably wont, considering the sales this past week alone.
IMO the options in the poll are spread a little thin. You should lower the amount with options like “I would spend $5-15 a month”, "I would spend $15-25 a month, “I would spend >$25 a month”. This would almost cut the amount in half… might be too late though. Up to you though, IMC might like it better the way you have it.
I picked ~$10 a month with a token every month.
Um dood… statistics…
http://www.qualtrics.com/blog/determining-sample-size/
Let’s say that the total population of likely ToS players (because who else visits these forums?) is say 250,000 people.
If I want a confidence interval of 95% and I want my margin of error on responses to be +/- 5% then I only need a sample of 384 responses…
Obviously I would like the margin of error to be even smaller so more responses would be good!
But yeah…
Those strategists and professionals use polls to collect data with similar sample numbers to make decisions with statistics. So even if you don’t feel those polls are valuable, there is still a lot of information about the total population of likely ToS players that can be inferred from the given polls. Are those polls perfect? No, of course not, no poll is. But if you think those polls are worthless for learning something about the views of the overall population of possible ToS players, then you’d be very very wrong.
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