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[Poll] ET Archer Builds 🏹

Class and Rank Archer
#62

Sorry, but you can’t be more wrong with that statement. You lose a lot by swapping falconer with scout in terms of PvE. The thing about falconer is that it’s not only your dps that get boosted, it’s your pt’s as well. Every ET party will have at least 1 wiz3, and in most cases, 2.

SR2 is also considered one of the best for ET because multi-hit skills are king in this game in general (look at retreat shot, magic arrow, frost cloud, ice wall+pp, these are all multi-hit skills) and AoE are king in ET. When you combined these 2 words together, skills like retreat shot and frost cloud comes miles ahead of other skills in terms of DPS, especially when retreat shot’s damage gets doubled by lethargy.

It’s based on the skill, not weapon.

#63

I heard it was a bug that if you use barrage with xbow it becomes strike, i’ll need to confirm. The sound of the attack changes though with an xbow.

#64

This is the first time i’ve ever heard of this bug. Although if it’s a bug, then all the more reason not to plan your build around a bug that will eventually get fixed sooner or later.

#65

Hmm, true. A2 R1 Sapper2 SR2 still sounds like it could potentially be a strong class for ET if you’re banking on lethargy debuff.

#66

Its not a confirmed nerf/fix…
I wanna consider these 3 builds now, because until the end of this year the Meta is gonna change… new classes, new level cap, ET is going to be 40 floors… :open_mouth:

#67

the “fix” is 100% confirmed on KR, so it will most likey come to us also.
Even tho in theory you can use running shot, when retreat shot is on cooldown, its not so easy. Most ET groups have a chronomancer and with PASS it totally messes up your skill use, it futher gets messed up when you have krivis with melstis- its not possible to use retreat shot and running shot in a very efficient manner.

The nerf was very hard for qs3/sr2.

#68

How do you guys feel about the 40 ET floors expansion and the New Rank 8 Classes? The meta definetly is gonna change

#69

SR3 is going to be king, unless falcon has some stupidly strong C3 buffs

#70

I always though king in ET was Broom trap + lethargy.

Wugushi + linker/PD (ultrablaster rape combo)

#71

@FoxBoltz i hope the floor variety will change some, bring out more mechanics and less wave-clearing and protect the objective. still hoping lvl 600 endgame will be more expansive. ET and WB alone for pve isn’t going to cut it. open up multi-party or large party functions (like guild grouping) and bring in large pve content with the raid label.

@sudonim7 as long as meta supports aoe for ET and chrono and/or krivis support, yes it will unless r8 is clearly better but then SR2 and r8 have a low but not impossible chance to synergize.

@rob.gog.sou kToS built a party around a massively invested SR2 and smashed through all 20 floors. there is a video of floor 17. but sapper2/wugu2/cannon is still cookie cutter aoe build and very common for ET archer.

#72

Hi guys. After readin some in this thread, so A2/QS3/SR2 is still viable for ET? or i just go yolo with it (since it’s my first character which means i got no silver)

#73

is there a huge difference in aoe damage potential between sap 2 > wugu 2 > can & a falc > cannoneer build? how come the former build is more popular?

#74

i wanna try ar1-ren3-rg1-sr2. What u think about this build? And how much con u need for ET?

#75

For the discussion between Sap2-Wugu2 vs Falconer, I would like to point out that Frost Cloud has a fixed AOE atk ratio of 15, which means that it can only hit up to 7-8 medium monsters at once. This gives an edge of Falconer IMO, because from what I know you can potentially face up to 40+ monsters at one go in ET, and Circling will allow Frost Cloud to hit them all.

With that in mind, I think something like A2-Sap2-Scout1-Falcon-Cannon would be more ideal over skipping Falconer entirely. You lose some personal AOE dps, but in exchange you boost your party’s AOE abilities considerably.

#76

hmm what about sap 2 vs wugu 2 in falc > cannoneer builds?

#77

would look something like archer2/ranger/wugu2/falc/cannon. its less aoe, but more 1 target damage and more mobile-capable.

#78

In terms of Sapp2 vs Wugu2, Wugu2 will have more overall DPS thanks to having 2 good AOE and 1 good single target, but will have problems with stat balancing (IMO) since poisons can’t crit and therefore only scale off str and gain nothing from Dex. Also, from what I understand Poisons benefit less from Attribute, while Broom Trap can Crit, gets full benefit from Attributes AND has the largest AOE radius amongst the available archer class AOEs. Oh, and Broom Trap is also affected by Lethargy debuff from Wiz, while Poisons are not.

In terms of build, like @YuseiXyan said, it will be something like Archer2 / X / Wugu2 / Falcon / Cannon, where X has to be either Archer3 or Ranger1 because you can’t fit in Scout1.

For the Sapp2-Falconer build, if you are not too found of Scout1, you can instead go for Rogue1 to get Capture, which you can also use on your partymate’s Frost Cloud + your own Broom Trap, which provides an additional AOE burst for your party.

With proper coordination it will be something like Circling > Frost Cloud + Pole of Agony (from elel3/WL party member) + Broom Trap (you) > Capture (after 8~ seconds) > wait for next Circling/Frost Cloud cycle.

#79

100 Votes! gj guys! :smile:

#80

I planing for A2 Sap2 Wugu1 Fal1 Can1
Right now Im playing sap2. So still have time making new decision. Alot of people tend to go to wugu 2, but Im just thinging that By going to falconer it would help out others skill to hv great aoe like multishot. Right now I hv quite a problem fighting a group flying monster. And by going wugu 2 for throw gu pot will not help me in this topic too. And im just thinging about claymore+circling but I cant find anybody hv test out this yet.
So what do you guys think? Wugu2 vs Fal1

#81

Sapper 2 benefits largely from lethargy. Wugushi 2 benefits from Linker and Plague Doctor.

Broom Trap + lethargy.
Wugong gu + joint penalty.
DoT + Discerning Evil. (this one is from pardoner actually, but… heey)
DoT + Pandemic
Wugong Gu + incenerator

Falconeer benefits any attack that has aoe ratio, including frostcloud, many swordsman skills, multishot lvl 10 (OOOOOMPH), cannonshot, cannonblast, snipe (but oh the hit box).

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