your comment doesn’t make sense at all …
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Hahaha we got a bad ass over here, that’s is called competitive gaming bro nuff said I do know some gamers who only plays MMOs for stories and questing etc. but most of the players are very competitive MMOs is supposed to be played with others so go find a guild that fits you and you will find your real friends.
Up until now we’re all graduates and I’m still friends with my RO friends way back 2003 having a guild who have the same goal is good.
pk système in tos
- It May Be good or Bad dépends on the Player taste , if Theys do So It Should Be only in Small areas which Will not affect the Player farm or progression.
A PK-enabled channel/server is a wonderful idea. Guild vs Guild squabbles over bosses would be legendary griefing fun - and if you don’t like that sort of thing, you never have to participate.
Hello, I am new here, so hello to all my fellow saviors. Well, I’m reading things about this discussion and I found it funny because a close-friend mentioned that old-school players would ask for a PK system implemented on the game. And he said that it would make people make tons of comments. As a online-gamer since 2005, I thought that players were satisfied with the PvP systems implemented in recent games, but due to recent animes like Log Horizon and Sword Art Online promoted the idea of killing other players, re-thinking the need of this characteristic on online games.
For me the biggest problem is one: the reasons. I think both sides are not trying to think together. That’s why I decided to this no by myself, and I understood three things:
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Competition: for those who consider this something natural of human beings, you’re totally wrong. As most of constructions made by humans, this is just another thing that was naturalised as “something that human needs” (just like faith or wars). I’m not saying this is good or bad, because I think we need to have a open-wide vision. But by believing competition is natural, I think I may consider that make others pain is something really nice and makes the world a better place. And it is not true.
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Development: it is okay to maintain things nice without competition, but we have other sight too about PK system: the gameplay-character development. Excluding the competitive point of view, which makes world a bad place to live, having this system would help people to meet other people, set objectives and things to achieve, improvement in gameplay, etc. This would be self-competition, a way to prove yourself that you can surpass your difficulties. This is different from a simple competition, who tries to prove to others who is thhave best in just one way, which is never th most and unique point that’s valid.
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Rules: this is why we can’t have th system. And it is nothing in favour or against the system. It is about how the MMORPGs are today. Why? This is a RPG game, right? And where are the rules? The difficult of setting rules that could make this system works. Not just this, like most of games are not just. I could say every game, and that’s why everyone is hoping for Tree of Savior to be a game to save the world.
But we want a PK server, just it.
This is nice, I would love it. The problem is that mentioned lots of times that they not want a “violent” game, this is why we don’t have a assassin-named class (like Mercenary or even Assassin, like Ragnarök Online). This is a tendency of new games due to age restriction and Asian-laws related things. Nonetheless, servers spend money. Let’s wait for this, right?
I’m in favour of a PK system (not just server) on any game, but this needs to be regulated. Welcome to the world.
See you!
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There are plenty of PvP videos online. From the looks of things there will be a PvP arena, which I think is suitable for PK players and casual gamers.
I’d be interested if there was some kind of PvP Ranking system involved, but the PvP side of the game isnt fully developed. (to my knowledge, would love to be corrected)
XD Ugh, just want PVP-oriented players to go away; just be happy with consented duels or go play another game where you can fight your (mom’s) bank account with someone elses. </3
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PK is always fun and hope on this game it would be amazing i really wanna try PK on ToS /gg for old Ro fans ;]
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@joulmn This would be the stupidest post in this thread if if @merumerucinnary didn’t post her own terrible post.
@merumerucinnary Did you even read the thread? The idea is about an OPTIONAL PK Channel, if you don’t like it you can just don’t enter the channel. IT IS consent because if you enter the channel you are agreeing with the PvP.
Read the thread before posting useless things.
I cant find it T-T but it was in an interview where he said tos wont be pvp heavy because thats not the heart of the game.
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@Sephyr
I believe this is what you mean; in case this is it, you are mistaken.
They even said they are open to suggestions.
Nope this is not that interview… I am still looking for it… It was something about competitive on a scale of being in stadiums and such…
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So us adults who love PK we should go away? Hahaha lol we don’t need mommies money we have our own to spend hahaha if you’re weak when it comes to pvp just stay quiet pls Its not our fault that youre not a competitive person.
im sorry but i just can’t agree with most of what you said. and here is why:
Competition: competition is a natural thing, you see it all over in the world you live in. Not just humans but most animal competes everyday for resources, shelter, fun. Competition is brought in theory by the fact that the world is finite in resources and ultimately if you and someone else require the same resource but only one can get it, you fight for it. Competition as Charles Darwin pointed out, interspecies or intraspecies wise, is one of the main factors that drives evolution. If you ever heard the phrase “survival of the fittest”, then you most likely know who Charles Darwin is and also what im talking about.
Development: it is true that competition is not really needed in a video game, but there is still competition going on in tree of savior, you fight for mob spots, you fight to reach an area first, a level first, to progress the story first, to complete every hidden quest. And as it is, there is a ranking system that takes all this into account on the game right now. So if the intention is not to compete, why implement this system that measures where you stand in the ladder? There is no such thing as self-competition, the definition in every sense of the word requires another. And competition doesnt make the world a bad place to live, it has always been there in one subtle way or another since the dawn of time practically.
Rules: making rules for PvP systems have always been a problem in most games. One thing is if PvP is allowed, you as a developer need to limit it by not encouraging. This is done by giving a punishment of some sort to the PKers, but then this comes to the other side of the spectrum which is, you need to reward it also. This give players about to commit PK a choice, reap the rewards but suffer the consequences or do nothing at all. This way PvP is promoted in a healthy way to a point that even people who dont PvP will get in on it cuz they get rewarded for killing “red” players. In short, if the developer make the penalties and rewards attached to it balanced i see no reason why PKing shouldnt be in the game to some extent. And with a PK channel, those who dont care for pvp at all wont need to deal with it at all.
PK server: pk servers do one thing to the game that i dont like, and that is they divide the community of the game. It separates Massive Multiplayer Online into Decently Sized Multiplayer Online, which is not good for player driven aspects of the game like socialization, economy, raiding, partying, guilds, PvP. So ya you get rid of pvpers entirely from the non-pvp community but without those people, you losing out on a few of the other aspects of an MMO.
In short i agree with the no PK server part, everything else i put my reasons why not.
no one wants a PK server … we’re asking for a PK channel … with no benefits … and level restrictions so there is no griefing … the only benefit would be boss spawns and grinding areas to fight over … and that’s it.
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We have already stated that it’s okay even if theres no bonus drop rate or exp rate in PK maps as long as its a PK/Channel map okay? haha.
Yeah, I think we’re actually all fine with that 
at least I am. But I’m still curious as to why the CEO would say it’s not the heart of the game since unless it’s a dungeon crawler, is at least somewhat part of the endgame/core of the game. I’ll help Sephyr look for the quote too now.
Well I can’t recall any comments by the CEO or post from IMC about the game is not about PK.
What I do remember is that the CEO indicated that he is not into P2W games.
Even if he said it (which I doubt), “the heart of the game” is a stupid concept and irrelevant to the idea at hand.
If people don’t want to PvP they can stay in their preferred channel, this is hurting nobody so I don’t know why would anyone be against it.
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