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PK System for TOS?

I’ve PKed in MMOs since I’ve started playing UO back in 97, I really enjoy PKing but either way I’m not fussed so long as there is a way I can get my PvP fix.

This sounds like a very good concept brought to this game; Fundamentally you’d see griefing but soon after it would idle into its core concept.

I would like a system build on PK points, this way you’re able to kill someone trying to take your grinding spots, but not place yourself into a huge risk zone for it.

Say, each kill is 10 points, 30 points your name turns red, you have a CHANCE to drop one piece of gear, 100 points it is GUARANTEED to drop one piece with a CHANCE to drop more.

Just an example.

PK channel is a great suggestion! Though I do think a level 600 player attacking a level 1 player should only do 1% of their usual damage (or whatever number makes it not dumb). Higher level players should be able to hunt lower level players, but at a certain point its just griefing, even if it is a totally optional channel. Like every 50 level difference you deal 10% less damage (and maybe take 10% more?), again random numbers but you get the point.

I love pk systems because:
a) it makes things much more exciting knowing a player could be stalking you waiting to gank you.
b) it strengthens social bonds. People need to remember it’s not just about pking, but pkking! Protecting weaker players is just as much a part of this system as hunting them.
c) sometimes it’s fun to be bad :stuck_out_tongue: lets face it, some people deserve to die.

completely agree, personally i dislike PK, so i prefere a good systeme which control it.

Não acho que será implementado um sistema de pk em tos, porém concordo que e bem mais divertido por causa das guerras territoriais!

It would be nice if they could apply the same PK system from Lineage II !!!

PK system is important to all game,but for tos,they have to optimize the skill system first,if PVE and skill system has balanced,then they can do somenthing to PVP.

Heck no, I’m all for PK channels, but if you give the PK channels better exp/loot/ANYTHING it will put pressure on players to play a certain way a lead to an overall negative experience for a large portion (I assume majority) of the player base who don’t like killing or being killed.

The PK channels will either naturally have less players in them (in lowbie areas), or have strong guilds trying to control certain maps so their guild gets everything (high priority MVP maps). Less competition for farm is benefit enough.

well, persoannly I think that any game without pk and without major losses from pk (like dropping items/level) is boring after a couple months

really, pk forces you to make friends, respect other people and how not to be an ***hole in game(maybe even irl)

Well, it works the other way, too.
I’ve been part of a lot of major hit&run PK guilds in the past.
Even more P2W PK guilds, too. We find the cheap thrill of wrecking other players absolutely fun.

Well for me it makes the game competitive, I don’t know that’s just how I play and the eager to be stronger along with my friends we grind and grind until we get strong and hold the boss and spots for our self survival of the fittest.

I do understand where you’re coming from I do believe me.

What I learned in playing MMO for years is it would be hard to play by yourself without your friends unless you have lots of cash and loads to buy ingame currency.

As a hardcore gamers we usually dont sleep you wont even see our characters log out, no were not botting we actually have pilots I dont know if that’s illegal here but while were working we have pilots to let our characters level or farm while were away.

Heck why pilot because we already have jobs so we cant really do the things that we use to do when we are still students or bums.

As a guild we tend to do everything together we farm up for a particular member of the guild so its a ladder we get items for all of us.

So having a pk system which will have atleast higher exp not that high from normal and higher drop rate would be good but of course monster would be overpowered and hard to kill and exp loss is there then that will be more challenging and keep in mind that its a pk map where anybody can gang up on your team.

That’s botting and it’s illegal in all the mmorpg i played and i’ve been playing mmorpg for 15 years nonstop, heck even afk farming with pets is illegal in mmorpg with pets, So i think you just didn’t know it was illegal O_o or you live in a country where it’s not but in the international release of ToS your “pilots” are illegal and you will get banned if found.

To come back to Pk server, i’m sorry i played a ton of MMORPG with pk system and it’s simple: Get REKT->Grow stronger->Rekt people
if you leave before getting strong enough it just mean you weren’t up for that type of game so you should have chosen the pve server, i see no problem with big level farming newbie, anyway there will be other pvp player who will help them and if you get rekt too much just get a guild! Pk system force people to play togather and not each in their corner wich is the true meaning of MMORPG and it offers real challenge because let’s be clear beating stupid ia will always be easier than beating human.

Hahaha I’ve played many MMOs as well specially RF online where everyday is PVP, I usually farm boss with my cousins, well there’s no way for you to know if the one who’s playing a character is a pilot the only way to know if the IP will be changed if the account has been logged in into a IP that’s located away from your current location.

Well it’s still illegal in most game to let other people play your char while you are away (in pay to play mmorpg mostly, like WoW, Swtor, GW2) i don’t know about F2P but it’s indeed not enforceable i didn’t understand pilots as other player playing your account while you work, my bad ;). If you want to know more information type account sharing mmorpg on google.

However it’s heavily watched on web browser game like, ogame, travian, ikariam etc. where you can get your account block 7 days with only suspicion and definitely ban if confirmed i know i did it a bunch of time for my brother on ogame but we were living under the same roof so we had no problem most of the time (that why now most browser games you can lend your account to an other player while on holidays).

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Well that’s what we’re actually doing me and my cousins will play in the same roof sort of haha we have a place here which we call our own its a compound which if ever our characters needs leveling or farming they play it.

Thanks for the info well in RF online USA the official server they do monitor pilots through IP and they do ban accounts as well.

The thing is as long as the location where you login your character to point A and B is near theres no problem with that, I dont pay for pilots though we have a computer shop and my friends. But I do know some people who really pay pilots in game to play their characters while at work haha he did in RO2 and got max lvl ASAP and rare items you wont see him offline haha.

Used to to this before me and my cousin got a job I plain the character in the weee hours and he plays it during mornings so its a win win haha.

Let’s get back to the topic im all in for PK channel haha even if theres no addtl. exp or drop as long as its PK haha.

I think the only system that would be appropriate is ‘’ Black Skull PK System "from Tibia … Sorry for my bad english.

I like that idea, and if you dont like pk… just stay on the others non-pk channels.

Level restriction doesn’t magically make it that much better, it just stops high levels eating up low levels. You will still have people who want to level get jumped on the games relatively smallish maps that have no interest in PvP by PKers.

If you read what I said, PK channel is fine but few people will use it. Opt-in for PK means that all the players who want to kill other players will go to it, sounds great in theory but if everyone going in the PK channel wants to PvP… why not go to PvP? They won’t be in the PK channel to grind, they are there to PK.

Literally what is the point of PK system in a game other than to randomly kill other players who don’t want to do PvP? You can just do PvP if you want to fight other players fair and square. The idea of PK is that it’s NOT fair.

I am of the school of thought where you would have PvP arenas like in RO where people actually went to PvP and contest with each other to find new strategies and combos. [such nostalgia]
Open area PvP, however, should not be implemented. You’ll see people who have a bullying complex, bully people in the game… and that’s not very nice.
What will really keep this game meeting its full potential is the formation of a beautiful community where there is little-to-no drama at all (of which PvP is a huge trigger.)

So let’s try keep the drama low and hopefully not introduce systems where drama and intense competition is encouraged. I’m not saying I do not like competition, but the toxic society that games such as Aion, Tera, Dota 2, (i dont know about LoL so i won’t comment) really causes the game to go down hill.

ToS should at heart… strive to be a very social game with friendly competition in the form of structured PvP like Guild Wars for territory and Group PvP.

The CEO himself said, this game will not have the competitive aspect like Dota 2 or LoL, but will really strike a chord with those MMO-lovers who are fond of communities.

But hey, this is just my opinion and my hopes for the game. Not trying to impose them on anyone.

dude your comments just don’t make sense … we’re not children for you to tell us “oh if you wanna PK then go to PVP” we all know Pvp arenas and PK are different … i don’t like arenas … i wanna pvp in a very large and open field … and i wanna fight over bosses not fight for nothing … also who told you that people won’t grind in pk channels ? if it’s empty because people don’t want to pvp then people will grind there because it’s easier since there isn’t many players in them like normal channels … thats what makes PK channels good for grinding … because people fight over it and it’s empty for the one that wins the fight

and whats up with you saying “Literally what is the point of PK system in a game other than to randomly kill other players who don’t want to do PvP?” … wtf ? seriously ?? why the FUUUUCK is there someone in PK channels if they don’t want to PVP ?