I’m sorry but you’ve either just been really unlucky or are lying through your teeth. I’ve also played many Pvp games, I would argue more so than you have, and although there is always people in the arsehole category (though it’s not like you don’t get arseholes in pve), the majority are average people who don’t go out of there way to make peoples lives harder.Fact.
simple … just remove pk system from the low leveling spots and add it for the end game maps. done … also who cares if a level 100 is gonna go to a level 30 zone and kill everyone … if you don’t want pk just go to other channels like seriously wtf
what do you mean by “no one will get beyond level 30 without a real struggle” it’s his problem for being an idiot and going into a pk channel
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By your review I thought you were a reasonable person, but reading your ridiculous arguments and calling people 14 years old for liking PK is disgusting.
i honestly don’t understand why people refuse the pk idea … no one is forcing low levels to go into pk maps … they can just switch channels
I think their reasoning is “I don’t like it so nobody should like it”. They aren’t reasonable persons.
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PvP game is absolutely not PK game. Get your things right. If you are talking about PK that means killing people unprepared, sometimes even unarmed and majority will look for lower level guys to have an easy fight. That’s reality.
PK on different channel or server? I’m not against that.
none of the things you mentioned is PK … there is no downside to adding PK … it’s not like anyone is forced to use it … it’s not hard to implement either
This thread is suggesting a PK channel.
if there is no downside to it, and it’s easy to implement, even if it only satisfies 1% of TOS players … then it should be added … there is nothing to lose … but there is something to gain by a small amount of people
I might agree to a PK/PvP server, like in RO, but I won’t agree to a PvP channel.
there are so many MMORPG now that doesnt implement PK system
I think you’re out of touch here. Plenty of (not completely dead) MMOs have a PK system in the overworld:
Age of Wushu: no PvE servers
ArcheAge: PvP servers
Eve: defining aspect
RIFT: PvP servers
TERA: PvP servers
WildStar: PvP servers, faction-based
WoW: faction-based Horde vs. Alliance
I could also add some older examples, like you did, and just suggest private servers of those.
Personally, PK systems have only ever been unfriendly towards new players. It’s also pushed me to solo-grind in some games, simply because I can never trust random strangers on the map just grinding by themselves. It would always just be easier for me to switch channels or move to a more remote grinding spot.
And seriously, with the population densities you’ve seen in the ToS’s CBT’s, did you not think that there won’t be people killing others for the prime grinding spots? Especially at low levels, where people are just starting form their opinions on the game? You are asking for a bloodbath here.
Relatively few ever looked to RO specifically for PKing. The prime PvP scene in RO will always have been WoE GvG. There were instanced free-for-all maps for PvP, but those were honestly secondary. The equivalent of the free-for-alls in ToS are now the gladiatorial matches, so you can look forward to those at least.
I wish you luck.
To give some constructive feedback: How would you solve level range 1 - 600 to make PK interesting for everyone?
why are you arguing with people without even knowing what they are suggesting ? the thread is about a PK Channel no one is trying to make it a pk game … just 1 channel out of whatever many channels there are
I’m not against it, but it was brought up as a solution to an issue that can be easily fixed without resorting to a PK channel . Imo, better just make a thread about PK Channel as a means of getting more FUN/EXCITEMENT for the game and attracting people who like PK(like me) to play in that channel, rather than as a solution to a certain issue .
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@proxy_mctemporary Your post makes no sense.
First you say that you don’t agree with PK channels and you prefer PK servers, but then you complain about problems that are exclusive to PK servers and are easily solved by making PK optional (channels)
Neither of the problems you listed would be relevant with optional PK channel. But they would with a PK server.
@Flamey “Interesting for everyone” sounds too utopic. I don’t think it’s possible to make such a feature attractive for every type of player.
But there are some partial solutions though, like making people not being able to fight if there’s a big level difference between them. That would be a simple thing to do but sort of goes against the whole point of a PK channel.
The other solution would be adding a karma system, but that requires work.
@mikhaze03 You are confusing threads, friend. This one is about the fun and excitement. The thread you are talking about is here My solution to overcrowded grinding spots: an optional PK channel
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No we did think of this, this is the reason for pvp channels… I don’t know about you, but when I enter a pvp channel/server I expect there to be pvp that’s just common sense and it would be stupid to think otherwise. If people are grinding your favorite spot in a pvp channel then they’re doing what the channel is intended for the same as you would defend your grind spot if someone was kill stealing everything. If you can’t think of anything you can do to combat them then you leave and go to a pve channel and grind solo or join a party. It makes no difference.
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yes there will be people killing others for grinding spots … but if you don’t like it just switch to other channels … the channel system is just like servers but you can switch quickly … so why would you agree with a pk server but not agree with a pk channel? … there is absolutely no reason.
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Apparently from your perspective, PK Channel ≠ Elitist Channel. Haha.
Having a PvP room is enough. Some of the skills in this game are much too insane to just have people hunting others in the open world honestly.
If you wanna secure a grinding spot, make some friends. Simple as that.
So you are basically talking about PK in a level brackets and wandering the map to find people you actually can fight. Isn’t faster to just go into Arena where the game finds you the right people?
Because let’s be honest. The bad PK guys do not care about Karma at all.
It’s not only about the grinding spots though, it’s just about having open world pvp as a whole. It’s a nice addition to every game for pvp players. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean others won’t. And if you really don’t like then you simply don’t have to use it, it affects you in no way shape or form.
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I really enjoy the pk idea but as many pointed out, high level dudes will probably just grief low level noobies.
my proposal is that when a pk channel should be implemented, certain maps will be restricted for levels, so that a high level character cant kill every noob to make room for his guild to grind.
it would be awesome if you could fight other groups on the same level for the grind spot, it would actually encourage party play, strenghten community bonds and make leveling exciting.