if there is no downside to it, and it’s easy to implement, even if it only satisfies 1% of TOS players … then it should be added … there is nothing to lose … but there is something to gain by a small amount of people
I might agree to a PK/PvP server, like in RO, but I won’t agree to a PvP channel.
there are so many MMORPG now that doesnt implement PK system
I think you’re out of touch here. Plenty of (not completely dead) MMOs have a PK system in the overworld:
Age of Wushu: no PvE servers
ArcheAge: PvP servers
Eve: defining aspect
RIFT: PvP servers
TERA: PvP servers
WildStar: PvP servers, faction-based
WoW: faction-based Horde vs. Alliance
I could also add some older examples, like you did, and just suggest private servers of those.
Personally, PK systems have only ever been unfriendly towards new players. It’s also pushed me to solo-grind in some games, simply because I can never trust random strangers on the map just grinding by themselves. It would always just be easier for me to switch channels or move to a more remote grinding spot.
And seriously, with the population densities you’ve seen in the ToS’s CBT’s, did you not think that there won’t be people killing others for the prime grinding spots? Especially at low levels, where people are just starting form their opinions on the game? You are asking for a bloodbath here.
Relatively few ever looked to RO specifically for PKing. The prime PvP scene in RO will always have been WoE GvG. There were instanced free-for-all maps for PvP, but those were honestly secondary. The equivalent of the free-for-alls in ToS are now the gladiatorial matches, so you can look forward to those at least.
I wish you luck.
To give some constructive feedback: How would you solve level range 1 - 600 to make PK interesting for everyone?
why are you arguing with people without even knowing what they are suggesting ? the thread is about a PK Channel no one is trying to make it a pk game … just 1 channel out of whatever many channels there are
I’m not against it, but it was brought up as a solution to an issue that can be easily fixed without resorting to a PK channel . Imo, better just make a thread about PK Channel as a means of getting more FUN/EXCITEMENT for the game and attracting people who like PK(like me) to play in that channel, rather than as a solution to a certain issue .
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@proxy_mctemporary Your post makes no sense.
First you say that you don’t agree with PK channels and you prefer PK servers, but then you complain about problems that are exclusive to PK servers and are easily solved by making PK optional (channels)
Neither of the problems you listed would be relevant with optional PK channel. But they would with a PK server.
@Flamey “Interesting for everyone” sounds too utopic. I don’t think it’s possible to make such a feature attractive for every type of player.
But there are some partial solutions though, like making people not being able to fight if there’s a big level difference between them. That would be a simple thing to do but sort of goes against the whole point of a PK channel.
The other solution would be adding a karma system, but that requires work.
@mikhaze03 You are confusing threads, friend. This one is about the fun and excitement. The thread you are talking about is here My solution to overcrowded grinding spots: an optional PK channel
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No we did think of this, this is the reason for pvp channels… I don’t know about you, but when I enter a pvp channel/server I expect there to be pvp that’s just common sense and it would be stupid to think otherwise. If people are grinding your favorite spot in a pvp channel then they’re doing what the channel is intended for the same as you would defend your grind spot if someone was kill stealing everything. If you can’t think of anything you can do to combat them then you leave and go to a pve channel and grind solo or join a party. It makes no difference.
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yes there will be people killing others for grinding spots … but if you don’t like it just switch to other channels … the channel system is just like servers but you can switch quickly … so why would you agree with a pk server but not agree with a pk channel? … there is absolutely no reason.
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Apparently from your perspective, PK Channel ≠ Elitist Channel. Haha.
Having a PvP room is enough. Some of the skills in this game are much too insane to just have people hunting others in the open world honestly.
If you wanna secure a grinding spot, make some friends. Simple as that.
So you are basically talking about PK in a level brackets and wandering the map to find people you actually can fight. Isn’t faster to just go into Arena where the game finds you the right people?
Because let’s be honest. The bad PK guys do not care about Karma at all.
It’s not only about the grinding spots though, it’s just about having open world pvp as a whole. It’s a nice addition to every game for pvp players. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean others won’t. And if you really don’t like then you simply don’t have to use it, it affects you in no way shape or form.
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I really enjoy the pk idea but as many pointed out, high level dudes will probably just grief low level noobies.
my proposal is that when a pk channel should be implemented, certain maps will be restricted for levels, so that a high level character cant kill every noob to make room for his guild to grind.
it would be awesome if you could fight other groups on the same level for the grind spot, it would actually encourage party play, strenghten community bonds and make leveling exciting.
My bad . Ty for correcting me, lol
if its for that then +1 . As long as there’s no real advantages on playing on the PK Channel, like having higher exp rates.
if the channel is plain PK Channel then i support the idea .
If only “making friends” actually secured a grinding spot.
If some other full party is already in that spot, the only option your party has is to sit there and ruin their grinding while getting half yourself or finding another spot entirely (which are in very short supply).
Anyway there’s more to it than just securing grind spots by force.
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your reasons for not wanting a pk channel are really dumb … sorry to say that … but it makes absolutely no sense … “having a pvp room is enough” , “some of the skills in this game are much too insane” < and this is a reason for not adding pk ?
@Flamey I would gladly just take a PK channel with no restriction, but I know some people would complain even when it’s a completely optional feature.
@Callisto It’s a different channel, not a global PK system. Everyone is free to not participate in it.
no one cares if the pk guys fight people with their level or not … if you don’t want to be killed at a low level … just don’t click the PK channel
@mikhaze03 No probs. I’m glad people aren’t against the idea because it would make me and a lot of people happy.
if griefing low level players doesn’t give you points or anything … then who cares let them grief all they want … and if the low level players don’t like it then they should just leave the channel … no reason to make it complicated
I’m trying to figure out what is that fun about the PK channel when the 600lvl player can completely repeatedly solo wipe 1 - 300 lvl people in newbie zones. I thought you have some leads to make the PK fun for majority who joins the channel.