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Pay2Win, what are your thoughts?

Sounds like you haven’t felt the worst of pay 2 win. Anyway thankfully a large majority (who are mostly pve players) disagree with you.

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I wouldn’t be too sure about that. LOL

There’s no excuse to go P2W except being greedy when there are developers that can pull profit from F2P games with purely cosmetic cash shop.

as majority in the forum agree that we are against the P2W, if IMC do selling that cash shop item P2W way…
we got an army here to protest lol :yum:
im experiencing the worst dev, at 1st they going with subcription method but as the time goes this method not working for the international server so they decide to make a test server using f2p in the asia
that make asia server and eu server treat differently… the asia one going P2W way and the eu working casually via cosmetic items…
in the end the player win their heart by protesting and the asia branch disbanded and join to the eu one lol and going f2p, it only last for one years (the asia servers)… as i am playing the game for 3 years now(from international to asia server) :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:
and the game called Wakfu

o-o" Deer lawd, that txt…

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This guy _ you totally understand, you totally, totally understand, and everyone else is too lazy to read~

I’m pretty sure it’s gonna come out P2W. Majority of the F2P games that come out now end up having some sort of P2W feature so at this point I’m use to it and I expect ToS to do the same too. I simply put in more time so I can compete with the P2W whales (Played ArcheAge for 9 months, king of P2W games).

BTW really read even a bit of what contidelicious’ essay has to say before you start spitting out your shitty carebear 10year old opinions, he actually puts up very strong arguments. Really tired of hearing this cosmetic only bullshit, the developers aren’t here to hold your ■■■■■■■ hand and spoon feed you for free, it’s already a F2P game. They are a company that at the end of the day, desires profit like any other human being would want for doing a job.

So deal with it or don’t play at all ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Welcome to modern F2P MMOs.

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Except that Tera is really strong since its existence despite being cosmetic and booster only.

Uh, hello? Elite Status? That “booster” is actually very significant.

and boom lets start a new thread on that?

You are not entirely wrong. That’s your rights to give your honest opinion about this matter.
Yes, those players who spend their money to buy p2w items are also supporting the game. But at the same time, the balance will be broken between those who can pay and those who can’t. The game won’t be fun anymore (except for those who can pay and rule the game). It will become a money oriented competition, not skills oriented competition.

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Oh no no, I understand that people who spend money in the cash shop will have an advantage @_@ It’s more along the lines of ‘how does this advantage effect a player like me?’ The only system that really affects me is when real-world money can be easily converted into in-game money, which is something that effects veterans, and more importantly, new players~

Everyone brings up the few MMOs that have mostly fair cash shops, but when there are a plethora of publishers that anyone who has played MMOs as more than a passing fad is aware of, like Addiktion has mentioned, that’s how F2Ps are successful; and I mean success in the fact that they have a balance between player-base (let’s please not whip out the WOW subscription comparison) and paying players~

And I could type a super long essay explaining, and I might if I have enough free-time, but my general consensus is that P2W-style is usually an end-game thing, where someone would quit anyway due to lack of content~

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Likewise your cometics only BS isn’t fun for the paying players. Is it really that hard to understand.

Yes I honestly don’t understand what you were talking about. :sweat_smile:

Can you explain more about this?

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He just a troll :grin:

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What do I need to explain do you have reading comprehension problem?

“Because anyone who disagree with me is a troll”.

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Maybe yes, because I don’t really understand your comment earlier.
cometics BS isn’t fun for the paying players.
So a player who bought cosmetics…isn’t fun? Or buying cosmetics isn’t fun for players? Or what? :cold_sweat:

PLAY to WIN isn’t fun for people who cash the same way PAY to WIN isn’t fun for people who don’t cash.

I think he means the P2W player would have no interest in cosmetics and would rather invest their money into something that will make their character stronger instead of visually looking better.

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