I’m rating this post a 9/11 because it’s suspicious and requires further investigation.
Agreed, a timeless classic.
Except there is zero reward in GvG, at this point in time, besides making people miserable. So I guess it’s… Pay to make people miserable, and quit, because you’re a big mean whale.
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Oh I see, you’re the type that gets blinded the moment they are offended.
Let me copy and paste my entire post and bold the non-insults for your weak soul.
Because you kids don’t know what real P2W is. A hat that takes an absurd amount of money to get good stats that isn’t even completely gamebreaking and 10% movement speed that doesn’t apply in PvP Arenas. Honest fking joke that you clueless idiots are complaining about.
Saddest part of this thread and many others is that the majority that are crying don’t even PvP, which is where ironically where these stats should have the most impact. (Not even sure if PvP Arena balances gear though, heard mixed info on this.)
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I would actually be all for a Buy To Play model where you just pay 60 dollars upfront and be done with any other costs. I would buy Tree of Savior without a moment’s hesitation
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By the time you let it become “real P2W” it’s too late, the damage would already have been done. The game would be hemorrhaging players by the hour.
Whether it’s PVP or PVE there’s some degree of competition in an MMO. That P2W stat may just be what separates you from getting the boss loot or dodging that boss skill which will keep you alive. And it will give you this advantage over and over and over again every time you engage in a competition vs a non paying player.
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Except it isn’t, and it never will.
And there is no “Competition” when it comes to killing bosses 1 second faster.
I see.
It’s easy to make claims, without supporting arguments. Makes it real convincing too.
I think boss drops to the players that dealt the most damage. So I think the argument holds.
YEs, it is, so you should stop claiming about how “P2W” everything is, before it actually makes a tangible difference in your life.
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Was going to say that too, as of right now there is no incentive to even GvG so you’re complaining about a stat that is affecting something that has zero value other than boasting your ego.
Also, in a very large scale PvP, a single person having 10% more movement speed isn’t going to make a big impact on the fight, a well thought out strategy will. A strategy that is based around players class and playstyle, not whether they have an extra 10% movement speed or not.
There are so many more factors that play into GvG compared to a mere 10% movement speed that a portion of your group has.
Not knowing what youre getting into is equally the game to no arguments at all. This thread is basically copy paste of magic scroll thread. You guys are just plat out whining, hoping someone can find the solution you yourself cant find.
Keep on piling that aggressive attitude. I’ll clarify one thing, though. I’m not offended; I simply advocate a nice forum community
And as I already said, you didn’t really make any strong points. I don’t have any particular reply for them. What you’re saying is that it’s not real P2W if it’s something as little as 10% movement speed and stats that have a high cost. (Now that’s the proper way to word it.)
All I can say to that is, I disagree. I think paying for stats, no matter how much it costs, is P2W. Oh, and then you make a bold assumption just to fallaciously invalidate people’s claims
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I don’t care about current state lf affairs. P2W shouldn’t be here from the beginning.
Because when they introduce GvG rewards it’ll be too late to remove stats from hats.
Thanks for the advice, but I don’t see the need to follow it as I fail to see how it benefits me.
Makes me wonder if all the complaining is because p2w players are leveling faster. Is a race? I didn’t know. Free? Grind. Simple as that.
Is that a reply to me? I never once “whined” about these thing. In fact, my post above is the first time I even expressed my opinion about the magic scrolls. And even that is very mild. I simply said I think it’s P2W without saying if I think that’s a bad or a good thing.
You don’t care about the current state, but you care about the future that Nobody knows about? Seriously?
You don’t know if they’ll introduce “Rewards” to this current so-called “GvG”, and assuming otherwise is pointless.
Care to give a F2P MMO that doesnt have “paying for stats features”.
Nope, boss drops goes party wide. I’m pretty sure it(the boss cube) can go for more than 1 party, I remember from when I was killing the Harpea in DP2.
I do care that they are trying to implement P2W from the start. It is not too harsh yet, but it EXISTS. So yeah, I do care about the future of the game. I want to play it for at least year or two. And kToS that had exact same system died in a few months.
That’s why the system needs to change.