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Open world pvp suggestions won't be implemented (anytime soon)

General Discussion
#62

The reason I wrote a whole paragraph about asking is because when I simply stated I don’t think they should concentrate on that now, you went on what I considered to be a defense of how you should be allowed to ask, to which I decided to add my opinion and say of course you are allowed to ask, is it a good idea I don’t know, and in my opinion wasn’t worth it.
It’s an opinion guys. Also FYI I am not a gm, so no need to overreact to it.

I just don’t get your logic of you debating how you are free to ask for PK and seems like you’re all acting like I am not free to state that I don’t think they should concentrate on that right now.

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#63

@yuximie He was more concentrating on your statement about “being too early to suggest X thing” rather than your disagreement with the idea in itself.

I think that was obvious.

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#64

You are free to state it, but when you’re claiming something like “don’t suggest features on a forum for a game that’s in beta” then you’re going to have to expect people to call you out on it.

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#65

When I wrote it’s like asking for a calligraphy class before basic writing class, that was me stating my opinion that it’s not worth concentrating on right now, and that I think there are better things to pay attention to at the moment. The whole argument was that PK won’t even be good if the game itself isn’t stabilized first. So my opinion was to get to PK later, I wouldn’t want GMs to concentrate on it now. But I didn’t say you shouldn’t ask for it. I simply stated why I think it would be a good idea to “learn basic writing” before the “calligraphy” and I thought, this was obvious.

#66

Then all I can say to you is: it didn’t sound like it.

Everyone agrees that this PK Channel idea comes after the priorities are under control. But there’s nothing wrong with showing IMC that there is a big demand for it since the start so they have more time to consider it, and time is never bad.

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#67

Did you really read my stuff, or skimmed through it? Because I think I mentioned it over and over how I am not saying asking is wrong, and I don’t know if it was a good idea, I simply think it’s too early to think about it and doesn’t seem to go along with what they stated before. I even brought up imissbrooke32 who quietly brought up that they already were set on something, yet they did change their mind, so I did mention, who knows maybe it will work. If it’s not obvious to you guys, then I’ll state it clearly, there is a difference between my opinion about was worth asking the question, and my opinion on whether are you allowed to ask the question.

#68

Oh after reading some of Loztchild comments and the replies, I felt like people are really urging the PK like right away. Because he did mention more than a couple of times, that he thinks it will come just not right away. That was the whole reason why I even decided to comment.

#69

Loztchild is a lost cause. Don’t act like his posts make any sense to begin with.

He thinks that just because a feature isn’t in the beta is because the developers don’t want it in the game. If you seriously think that isn’t ridiculous then I don’t know what to say.

#70

Oh I don’t think he meant in the Beta, I think he meant the reason why they aren’t planning on it at the moment. Like it’s not a goal they mentioned in FAQs.

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#71
  1. Bored to read each and every comment stopped at about half of the posts
  2. Optional PK channel idk how this could influence the gameplay of none PKer
  3. If anybody is concerned about the community splitting - come and join our PK channel we got cookies
  4. A god damn Pyro is stealing all of your mobs until you rage? - come and join our PK channel and the mobs are yours - unless you suck
  5. Me go PK Me kill People Me berry stronk
  6. You go Toxic You call friends Me kill friends Me happy
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#72

@yuximie

I’m afraid he did mean in the beta.

[quote=“Loztchild, post:39, topic:37087, full:true”]
There is a reason that PK is not in the game right now[/quote]

#73

Hahaha lol, I actually loved this

#74

Due to the link he shared previously, I understood it as in the game… The Game, not the testing.

#75

Does that make a difference?

#76

Well I think Beta doesn’t have a lot of things that the actual game will have. So I think it does.

#77

Plus he said that, which makes me believe that it wasn’t about the beta.

#78

That’s exactly the point.

The game is in beta right now, there’s no “actual game”, and it’s missing a lot of things that will get considered as people suggest them/show interest in.

PK channel can be one of them if we keep showing interest, and the fact that it’s not in the beta doesn’t mean that it’s because the developers hate the idea or something like that.

#79

Ok let me come clear here
I don’t mean the Beta at all.
I meant the game itself,as in the design, their goal wasn’t to have PK in the first place.but with people wanting it they might suggest it into their plans for future content.

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#80

Actual game is the concept that GMs have and tried to give us a preview of through the little puzzle clues from the closed beta, to the guides, FAQs, etc. Of course it’s not set in stone, that’s the beauty of the internet. However, I think the whole point was that the FAQs mentioned that they don’t plan for it, and what Loztchild was trying to say, is that they are GMs they clearly know what PK is, to even state that they don’t plan on it, means they know what it is. The fact that they said they don’t plan on it, means they considered it and decided to do something else instead. Of course that doesn’t mean that they won’t implement it if they see that enough players want it.

#81

I never said the opposite.

What you are missing is that if Loztchild is telling us about it as a reason of why we should stop asking for it, it’s because he believes that they won’t change their opinion even after seeing the big interest in it from many people, which is, again, ridiculous.