Of course they know about PK, but if players don’t show an active interest in it then they have no reason to add it. The discussions right now are made specifically to show interest and express how we think it could properly be implemented into the game. That’s the whole point of a suggestion in a forum for a game that’s still in beta.
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I don’t think PK should be on their priority list right now. They got tournaments. The class progression, the story line, the skills all this is was high on the list of things to test. There are still some tweaks to do, some corrections, some balancing. It’s like asking for a calligraphy class before you even took basic writing.
So what you’re saying is that you don’t want suggestions for content beyond what’s already there despite it being in beta. If you don’t realize how stupid it is to keep the community from showing interest in something until further into development rather than earlier to keep it from being rushed and untested, then I’d have to suggest that you rethink that notion.
The earlier the better goes for the vast amount of things, delaying it is never a good thing and either leads to poor implementation or just not getting implemented at all due to being too far into development.
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Hire someone and give them a thousand projects and see how fast one gets overwhelmed. I think there is a time and place to bring up stuff. But anyway that’s not the point and I’m not saying that you’re not allowed to ask for stuff.
Just as you are stating your opinion, I’m stating mines. I think they shouldn’t focus on that yet. If they do focus on that prior to focusing on the base gameplay, I can safely say I will be disappointed. I think focusing on that at this moment will result in poor gameplay in PK and in base story.
Like Loztchild said, they are not planning for PK system. Does it mean that it’s definite and you shouldn’t ask for it. Don’t know, but I do find that it was a way to say “we’re not concentrating on that right now”. The polite thing to do would be to give them time to at least achieve and perfect whatever they are concentrating on right now. Plus they did mention: “We are also preparing large scale PvP contents which lots of users can participate together.”
Have you tried those yet? How do you know they won’t satisfy your urge to kill?
Anyway nothing wrong asking for a PK channel, I just found it’s too early for such demands. I still have yet to discover what the initial vision of the GMs is. Let’s see what they got to offer.
You mean like how a beta is made for discussion, feedback, and suggestions? Because I agree with that, there is a time and place to bring this stuff up and if it’s not now then you’re going to have to come up with some sort of argument as to why it would be better to ask for it later. More planning time is always, always better. They lose absolutely nothing from knowing that the community is interested in it.
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This is not true. They already have PVP in different forms. This is more like asking a school that has a teacher who is a calligraphy expert, that shows off his talents once in awhile in class, to offer calligraphy as an optional elective.
This is beta-This is the perfect time to throw suggestions out.
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Organized PvP is not the same as PK, and a PK Channel is definitely not just for “an urge to kill”, and it’s something that can’t be replaced with organized PvP. That just shows you never tried it.
PK environment is an adventure, even when you are not planing on killing anyone.
You should give it a chance and see for yourself.
About your point: I disagree. With your reasoning we shouldn’t ask for ANYTHING because they still don’t have the basics down, which is wrong.
It’s not a suggestion nor feedback if they already know players want PK in the game from the start hence the reason why they answer this:
yep, it maybe not.
its not like once we suggest it… it will be implemented immediately. thats y its a suggestion…
It is a suggestion though due to the fact that most of the discussions have been over how it could be properly implemented into the game. Them not currently having it planned does not mean that it won’t be implemented if the community wants it enough.
That’s like saying, “They already decided the XP rates so there is no need to make further suggestions” But people commenting about the XP rates has lead them to relook at XP.
It’s very possible people suggesting PVP might make them relook at PVP as well.
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Lol first, I mentioned that this is not the point, I just threw it in there for your general consideration, as an example to show how asking too much too soon is not always 100% good. You clearly are looking for things to grab on. I wonder what about my point of view you riles you up so much?
If you notice I did mention “shouldn’t you ask for it, I don’t know”. So nobody is saying that you’re not allowed to ask for it. But you’re not just asking haha, you’re literally replying to all those that are not up for it, like you’re going to convert the world to your point of view simply cause you got one.
Look, you want the PK channel, I congratulate you. I don’t mind the PK channel. I just don’t want the GMs to concentrate on this right now, when I see other things worthy of their attention.
Repeating again, does it mean you’re wrong for asking? I don’t know. It’s just in my opinion when someone says they don’t plan on something, and that they plan on something else, and you get in their face before you even experience what they have planned and already try and convince them to do what they haven’t planned on, well lets put it this way, it’s simply very arrogant in my book. But huge surprise, this is not even the main part of the topic.
The main point is I just don’t think they should consider this, at this time. Simple as that. Also for your epic surprise purposes, you don’t need to agree lol. It’s cool if you don’t. But I really don’t get what you’re trying to achieve, by hanging on to some superfluous point I made just about my general believes that I simply felt like stating. I mean I’m so lost, please do let me know your purpose. Are you trying to convince me that asking for it was a good idea? Cause like I said I don’t pretend to know whether it was good or not, I simply stated that in my opinion it wasn’t the time for it, due to their statement. Final point is that they said they aren’t planning on it, and you go directly to what they aren’t planning on. So impatient, so demanding… tsk tsk tsk
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What am I even reading?
First you say that you don’t know if it’s wrong or not to ask for it, then you say that its “impatient and demanding”?
Just stop being so vague about it and admit you don’t want a PK Channel at all, because if you just “didn’t care” you wouldn’t put so much effort into stopping people from telling IMC that there is an interest in a feature you don’t want.
People like you make me sick.
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I won’t dispute your excitement about PK, because to each their own, and taste can never be argumented either way.
My point wasn’t about not asking anything, but there are many things that go into what I meant:
- asking and demanding are two different things, by some replies to the players who are opposing PK I feel like some of the replies really border on demanding and insisting rather than simply asking and stating an opinion.
- asking something that was actually purposely mentioned in advance to possibly avoid being asked that, well that’s just kind of goes against the whole point of them mentioning it in the first place.
They mentioned that “IT WASN’T IN THEIR PLANS” because they were literally asked about it.
I would give it to you if they went out of their way to specify that THEY DONT WANT PK AT ALL even without someone asking them about it.
But that isn’t the case, so you can stop bringing that up because it simply has no value as an argument.
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Just because I got a different point of view doesn’t mean I’m ignorant.I have read what you wrote and understood it but I just don’t agree with you in some points simple as that lol.No need to get personal and call me a troll.I said my opinion and you said yours so let’s leave it at that and not get mad about it by calling me a troll.I didn’t mean insult you or hurt you but If i did I’m sorry I just wanted to write my opinion and perspective of PK.
You posted something TWICE after the first time having already been responded by multiple people clearly explaining to you how you are wrong.
If that’s not trolling, it’s spamming.
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Hurry and get tylenol!!!
No look, seriously I’m not against PK channel.
I’m actually being very open-minded. I’m saying I don’t know if it’s a good idea or not because like imissbrooke32 stated, they did change some things that they didn’t plan to. So who knows maybe in my eyes it’s not the time, but it’s not up to me to make the decision either way. I can’t speak for everybody, nor do I intend to.
I don’t know how better to explain this:
I want them to work on the base game first, before they get to cater to extra stuff.
And I simply stated my opinion. If I were saying that I’m not planning X and instead I’m planning to do Y, and someone haven’t even tried Y and would tell me to do X, well I would find that this person didn’t even try all I have to offer, and already asking me to do what I specifically said I didn’t plan. Well in my eyes, please notice I mentioned in my eyes, as in my opinion, aka in my point of view, not cool.
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My point is that you keep saying that they shouldn’t be considering it right now, but exactly when do you think that they should? The more time they have to prepare for these things, the better. Also saying that it’s not the point when your entire post consisted of “give them more time before you suggest these things” is just silly. They don’t need to concentrate on this right now, but if they’re not aware of the community being interested in this type of implementation then they wouldn’t even be able to start planning to begin with.
They do have more important things to worry about like fixing other aspects of the game, but claiming that them being preoccupied by that somehow makes it so that other features shouldn’t be suggested until that’s cleared up is just something I can’t agree with whatsoever. They’re obviously going to keep polishing those parts until release, which means that according to your method, any suggestion would have to be made after the full release. All that means is that they can mess it up due to not having it be gradually implemented and tested like it should be, benefitting absolutely nobody except the extremists who don’t want it to be present in the game to begin with.
You keep calling it demanding, but nobody has demanded anything. People are simply throwing suggestions in on how it could be added into the game while gauging interest for it on the forum. If that’s “demanding” then they might as well not have suggestions to begin with since people like you will come around and claim that they’re being impatient for showing interest before it’s too late for things like this to be added.
I’m not trying to convince you that it’s a good idea since I’m pretty sure you’ve already accepted that there is interest for it, but what I’m telling you is that your idea of waiting before suggestions somehow being beneficial is absolutely false. You haven’t given a single reason beyond that they have more important things to focus on. And yes, I have said that it’s true, but what you’re flat-out ignoring is that if that’s the case then no suggestions should be made whatsoever. However as we can all see, they are open to suggestions, and not making use of an oppritunity like that due to your own personal interpretation of how they will reprioritize things is just dumb.
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