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Open world pvp suggestions won't be implemented (anytime soon)

Then why would you even tell us to stop suggesting it?

Well that is already a difference of opinions. He is allowed to believe that just because players want something it won’t get implemented, which in my experience does happen. Talon Ro refused to implement plenty of elements that ppl are bringing up over and over again. However, I don’t even think that is what he said, he said he think they will implement it just way later. In my opinion 4-5 years is stressing far too much, but I think he exaggerated for the purpose of saying he doesn’t see it coming out at the release.

As for you thinking that it is ridiculous, I understand that indeed when many players want something, it does seem weird why things don’t get implemented. However, I also think that there are over 5000 players right now and only a certain amount of players commenting on this at all. Whether for or against, those who are silent, I think are also taken into the consideration as in “bunch of people don’t care enough to say anything about it, so no point”. At least I am basing this belief on my previous experience in games I have played.

The difference is that we are in beta state where we are supposed to give them suggestions, and not just that, after literally telling us to give them all kind of feedback and suggestions in the forum before the iCBT closed.

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I actually went back and reread the messages. Hope I didn’t miss some. But I don’t see any “Stop suggesting that” anywhere, as for the “you shouldn’t suggest that” well those are opinions and they can even come in the form of: “I wish they had PK servers, but you shouldn’t suggest that, you’re wasting your time”. This is just an example on how “you shouldn’t” doesn’t even always mean the person is against it, or it doesn’t mean that you’re not allowed, or it doesn’t mean to stop. It’s just a person expressing their opinion to why suggesting it is either useless, or bad, or too early. But that is an opinion that can be expressed, it’s not really telling you to stop.

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I absolutely disagree and don’t respect that opinion, then. We are not wasting time and we are not asking for something that causes harm to people not interested in it, which is the most important thing.
As long as it causes no harm to anyone there’s no reason a suggestion shouldn’t be posted unless it’s a straight up fantasy that will never be able to be real.

So if he is going to comment negatively, either do it argumenting why the idea isn’t good or don’t post at all.

For example your reason is because it can take development time for other things, that is a valid reason even though I don’t personally agree with it.

I don’t think we’ll see an open world pvp system at launch or anywhere near that time frame. With that said, it’s not too crazy to say we may see it implemented in a future patch.

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martinuo_tos, you’re free to say that you disagree and disrespect his opinion, why don’t you accept that he is also free to state whatever he wants as negative as it may seem to you.

I feel like Loztchild came saw what was going on and put his 50 cents in it. Same way all of us did. He felt that it is less likely to happen and so he stated that. To be honest I don’t see why it should affect anyone that much at all, since it was his conclusions based on his logic that he shared. Of course you can find his logic flawed, we all disagree sometimes with each other. However, there really isn’t quality standards for comment replies, each person contributes what they perceive valuable.

Let me correct #4:
Unless you are a FS class*

Its definitely not a bad idea to have a pk channel. There were many good arguments from both sides. Actually, I would like to have a PK channel now after reading a lot of good points. I also understand the points made not directly saying there wont be a PK channel but just its at their least of interest right now as other things are more important to attend to. No one said it was wrong to ask for or discuss about. At first i didnt like the thought of getting robbed of my exp or loot as im lvling in a pk channel, but it would be exciting and have a different aspect where it has a more “realistic” feel. I can see how i can enjoy a PK channel. The thought of being a bounty hunter sounds cool and maybe even a title if you kill enough hahah. Just like many, i was either against it or doubted it, but from this discussion, i had a change of heart about the matter. So discussing the topic is healthy and Im sure the devs would rather we have a mature and rational argument, instead of trying to undermine or attack one another.

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