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Non-healer Clerics : why you shouldn't blame them

I also have a gf, doesn’t mean I’m gonna give you her name.

It’s not an argument. You’re just clearly butt hurt I called you a campfire leech.

That’s funny, only person I’m seeing butthurt here is you just because I called you a baby for needing a Cleric just to do dungeons.

FYI, I’m a Cleric, yet I know the struggles of my friends who get into cleric-less parties with people like you who quit without even trying, while they take a good effort finishing the dungeon despite the lack of members. I can only imagine that will be my hardest struggles once I make a Wizard or Swordsman or something, which I’m planning to.

And funny that you nitpick small statements of mine but completely ignore everything else. I admire that you already admit to your faults, but kind of sad you still haven’t shared your team name and server yet. You proudly flaunt your douchebaggery but afraid to label yourself for it. Pathetic really.

There is no faults. I have a gf that’s a lv.200 cleric anyway.

The funny thing is how you think you’re better because you believe everyone depends on you lol. I just didn’t mention my gf as a cleric because I already know you posted frequently in the cleric forums and was waiting for you to say it. Read like a book.

But keep swimmin’ in that soup. Your ego is only fueled by yourself. Nobody is afraid of you and you aren’t as intelligent as you think you are.

Yes keep pulling words out of your ass, you look even more silly.

Did I mention anything about feeling better because I’m a Cleric? NO. Quote me on that one. No quote? See, you lose.

Yes, I am a Cleric. But I understand the problems of not having a healer in a party through my friends. At the same time, I understand the frustrations they face when they meet people like you who ragequit without even trying to finish these dungeon runs.

Did I ask you whether you have a GF or not? Nope. See, who’s the guy with the high ego here who want to flaunt unrelated stuff like having high level chars or a relationship that isn’t even relevant to the discussion? So hilariously ironic. Pathetic really. I can clearly see you’re the egomaniac here.

Please do keep on going, it’s funny watching you make a fool out of yourself. Make sure to repeat your “oh but you campfire leech blahblah” that doesn’t even apply to me at all considering I’m a Cleric, it’s really funny.

You were the one who kept asking about my IGN that had nothing to do with the topic lol.

Calm down. You were sounding smarter a few posts ago.

Great another nitpick session, you can just easily stop replying if you have nothing to say except for some pathetic attempts to make everything I said moot just because of a few sentences here and there.

I’m asking for your IGN because you’re a douchebag by leaving dungeons, and I want to avoid douchebags like you when I queue dungeons and whatnot, it’s as simple as that. This isn’t even related to ego at all, LOL. It sure shows how much of a fool you are by trying to correlate things that aren’t even related at all.

And how is a capitalized word no suddenly matter in all of this? Dude, you’re not even trying. Just give it up and walk away before you make yourself look more stupid.

Usually I consider the main benefit of having a healer in the group
to be not needing to waste silver on countless potions to ensure the run
goes smoothly.

If as a cleric you refuse to fill that role, you might as well be a
lump of cheese in the party, laughing manically at your sub-par damage
while refusing to access your given skill set to support the party.

This.
You have to understand that I wouldn’t refuse to fill the healer role IF I had the tools to make efficient heals - let’s say, heal Lv10+ or Priest’s Mass Heal + Resurect + Revive, it’s the minimum.
So because a random non-healer cleric can’t provide you this and logically asks you to find a real healer for the team, you consider him/her to be useless/deadweight ? Even considering what his build can provide to your team - be it off/def support, magical/physical damage, utilities, etc ?

Then I am sorry but you walk near your shoes, at least concerning regular content where I’m pretty sure every DD cla ss can do its job, even the cleric DD cla sses : Krivis/Bokor/Sadhu/Druid/Monk… And you’ll notice that cleric has been gifted with many DD subcla sses, and just 2 healing ones, so it might explain why you may find some people who are not specialized in heal.

And imho, it’s cool that things are like that, because the game is calling for diversity ; you can look for the most optimized build and you’ll probably find one, but the thing is, you can expect to see people incoming with other ideas of what their ideal build is, and as the “nerf/up game” will develop further in future, the top-tier builds of today may become the weak ones of tomorrow, and the weak builds may become the overpowered ones… Especially now that we don’t know what the future r8-9-10 cla sses will look like and what they’ll bring on the tabletop.

So, to summarize my thoughts, you’d better look for heal-specialized clerics when you need heal, and then refuse non-healing clerics, it is up to you really… But you gotta admit aswell that non-healer clerics can do lot of good in many forms, be it support or damage - as long as their build is cleverly done and efficient in its very purpose. :slight_smile:

Agree with you. Some newbies just never read or see through other classes skill tree. They thought cleric must be healer and support. And they forgot something that we call holy mages and paladins are always from cleric.

The bullsh*t is so strong with you I can smell it a mile away.

Players like you are toxic to the community. Feel free to drop your IGN if you hate people like me whom you know absolutely nothing about.

I’d happily block and never party with you lmao.

There is no bullshit. You’re just pissed off I’m picking the intelligent option and leaving a dungeon that’s full of idiots such as yourself.

cant wait for those,
P.S

macumbeiro
lama (llama)
sheperd
fortune teller
daoshi
zealot

im sure most of those will be DD, daoshi is 100% gonna be supprot bcuz it used to be a waizard class (taoist preist) but got changed to cleri, and macumebiro is our demonic dancer DD :smiley:

You think you’re so superior and witty, fine, I’ll play the game with you a bit.

So let me get this straight.

You say this a lot, it doesn’t mean what you think it means clearly, since as you stated, YOU have a problem, and YOU are attacking everyone for saying your behavior blows donkey d*ck. Suck it up and accept it.

People are simply calling you out for being scum of the earth for your twisted logic and lashing out at and inconveniencing everyone, the hypocrisy with you is thick as your skull and humorous when I read your haughty posts.

You must think everyone is a mad idiot who doesn’t share your own narrow minded views from the patterns you show which plenty have explained as faulty and why which you ignore. There’s a word for this, let me spell it out for you, “delusional”. You should look that up, it even has your picture next to it, share it with your gf too!

Continue with your ad hominems, and go see a shrink while you’re at it. These are fun games, wouldn’t you agree?

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Lol I instantly thought of this video…

Great topic, on a serious note. I think a lot of people come on this game expecting generic MMO builds and are shocked when some classes are pretty out of the box, but work great.

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Ahah this is golden :slight_smile:

especially a freaking pure str or int. and low budget

The fact that you’re replying to me means you’re mad.

There’s a reason why I got multiple characters over Lv200 while you’re still doing Lv50 dungeons lol.

But sure, keep swimmin’ in that soup of yours.

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I’ve run through every dungeon in the game without a healer. Level 5 heal means I get to save some potions. Level 10 heal means everyone should be full health at all times. If people are incapable of running a dungeon with a c1 cleric they’re just bad, the normal dungeons in this game aren’t difficult and can be completed with no heals at all. It helps to have heals just like it helps to have supports or a dedicated tank but 5 random anythings can clear dungeons just fine.

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Hmm people can build whatever it is they want but know this at end game earth tower do not blame people for kicking you out of parties to get the most optimal party. So yes enjoy your character but end game is a totally different thing full supports are needed and are very hard to find to keep in a static party.

full supports arent needed, but are helpful. just havong cleric c2 is enough. as long as u have cleric c2, u can do anything u want.

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Please make more baseless assumptions, just like I’ll make one that you’re a grotesquely fat neckbeard that lives in their mom’s basement and lies about their accomplishments since clearly no woman would love you, much less your own mother.

I like mine more.