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Non-healer Clerics : why you shouldn't blame them

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#64

Sure, that’s because you hope I’m not doing better than you lol. Only in your delusional world everyone is suffering as bad as you.

Time to wake up to the reality tho.

Look at me I’m such a liar. I found all these just a couple days ago too. Except the Arde Dagger, I’ve had that for a while now.

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You should look those prices up on the auction house. I’m still banking around a mil of silver in the auction house too.

And I’m not even consider rich lol. There are way more players who have more money than me.

So much for your assumptions. I ain’t lying about my accomplishments. Do you also want a pic of my gf and me now? Also should I include a d*** pic for you? My assumptions about you are correct though. You are just an idiot.

As I said before, keep swimmin’ in that soup. In your world I’m just a fat bearded liar living in my mom’s basement lol.

#65

I dont care if clerics aren’t healer focused, thats fine. But if they refuse to drop heals at all they are douchebags and ruining for the group. I’ve met plenty of these. It would be like me refusing to tank even if theres no other swordies in the group. I don’t enjoy it much, but I do it anyway.

#66

curious, why is it so hard to drop your ign so we can all block you and etc? You don’t like people who don’t party ditch, we don’t like people who do. Super simple stuff.

#67

Drop in your street address and phone number.

#68

haha, oh geez. Can’t wait for a guy to stalk me and steal my credit card number when I tell everyone my team name in the new MMORPG Tree of Savior by IMC Games is Daruma.

Also, there you go. Please do block me so we never have to deal with each other in game.

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#69

I didn’t ask for your ign, I asked for your street address and phone number.

I don’t even care about your character lol.

#70

Oh, you care about my street address and phone number? That’s very flattering man, but you got a girlfriend already.

I coincidentally don’t care about your character either, I only care about your IGN. Which is super personal info, I know. Don’t give your IGN to strangers, kids.

#71

Ikr, the world is lonely when you’re single.

#72

Being a non healing cleric or not, if that player is the only cleric, its a good idea to assist the party with heals regardless, not doing so means the cleric makes the dungeon run slower than it should be AKA slowing down the party.

Regardless of what the cleric builds into, the cleric player has the utility to heal someone else up to 50% hp.

I dont know how many runs ive been tanking without a haler, and boy are the runs slow, cant wait to see what its like to be the tank for 217 dun without healer.

#73

What is this topic? I don’t even understand.

Non Healer Clerics? Does it even exist? Are you guys building Clerics without taking the skill Heal? O_O

And when you have the skill Heal, how can you not find the time to use it?

#74

Weird fellow. Is it feelings sharing time? I wouldn’t know, sorry.

When we gonna get that ditcher ign though?

#75

@Darumy @Varuna just settle it already , Tom and Jerry. Sorry.

We’re talking about Clerics who have Heal but refuse to heal just because they think it’s not in their job description. Some are DPS-specced; some are just insensitive. I know, it’s crazy. I mean, yeah, when you’re the only Cleric you should–must–at least heal.

#76

i completely agree with everything you say but…
cleric c3 and not taking the role of healer? Makes me wonder
how you’d build a healer…

#77

@Ginbei I never said the contrary of this :slight_smile: In fact, even when I’m assisted by a real healer I don’t hesitate to set up my heal tiles if I feel the need of it, but it’s my way to play. Plus, as I spend a lot of time in close range I often put my heals under the tank’s foot when the healer take care of the party…
But anyway, when my healing options are on CD or the group is doing fine without them, I return to my primary function, be it supporting or DPSing

@aoiapproved I see why you’re asking :wink: Yep I have 10 tiles of heal, but I miss some of the tools to be truly efficient as a healer : mass heal, revive, resurrect… So I don’t consider myself as a “main healer” ; but yes, it won’t disqualify me for the role in the majority of regular content, like leveling dungeons or missions, but for the high-end challenges ? I wouldn’t pretend to fit the role with these builds on Earth Tower.
But this case is particular because cleric3 is a must-have for any Sadhu build, and the 2 of them aren’t much related in the build’s purpose, which is damaging things, so either there’s a FS cleric and I can do what the character is supposed to (DPSing), or I’m the only cleric in the group and I’ll turn into the healer, not too gladly but it has to be done for the sake of the group. Same dilemma for the DD Swordmen when it comes to tanking : people will ask you to do it, even if you don’t fit perfectly the role.

  • And for the question, I would build a full-time healer Cleric2or3/Priest3/Chap/PDoctor n_n
#78

Awww, look at you posting screenshots you got from who knows where to try to appease me. I’m amused.

Too bad these don’t prove anything, other than you feel a need to post things in order to prove me wrong, which you’re very bad at since it isn’t enough. You could’ve gotten those from 4chan or reddit, or where ever else where plenty of screens are posted daily.

Anyway, you’ve shown enough that you’re just a tryhard neckbeard, go about to what you’re doing, I’m done stepping on your d*ck. Idiot.

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#79

Lv50 kiddo pwned.

You shouldn’t call someone out when you’re all bark and no bite lol.

#80

I’m just going to leave this here for you.

Go get some professional help.

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#81

I’ll just throw my 2 cents out :3

During missions/dungeons/grind party or any other group activity that involves forming a team of 2 or more players, the game tests the group/party’s ability to advance forwards, not an individual’s ability of controlling a character.

In essence everyone is a support, you support the party in whatever way or method you can to help the group clear the dungeon. If a skill is available to you and it benefits the party, use it. Even if you are not spec for it but it does help to resolve the situation at hand, why not? This is good party play, to keep note of what the team needs and try to fill up the gap, even if it is just momentarily.

That said, for ‘non-support’ clerics who only have 5 heal tiles (cleric c1 with no priest circles), your heal tiles are still important to the party. They heal a base percentage hp of the character that step on it which is really good even if it is just 10 tiles max every 22-25 secs.

#82

Bring pots and kite guise. Not so hard. I was in a mission random party with a tanker and 3 other archers (I am an archer myself) and the tank was so happy with us because we killed so quickly – you know why? The tank was tanking for us and knowing when to get out of the way to drink a pot and come back tanking.

No healer but all of us had full health due to the fact not because of our DPS, not because of our tank but because we knew when to retreat and beautiful tank-dps teamwork. :slight_smile:

Friendliness goes a long, long way.

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#83

This topic @.@
So much hate…

Well I have a “dedicatet Heal”-Healer (cleric c2 Diev c2 atm) and a “Buff Slave”-Healer (cleric1, priest2, krivis1, pardoner)

But:
I just drop my heals whenever I can/ see the need of it. I rather heal my teammates and eat a Pot myself.
I know my c1 heals are small, but they still heal for 5%. I have this ability, why not use it?!
As I always say:
A dead DPS/Heal/Tank is no DPS/Heal/Tank at all!

but its not only “Healers” who are at fault. Dungeons/Missions are teamplay scenarios. Not a bunch of soloplayers killing stuff.

I hate to party with those “solo” hurr durr player who can not use their skills to ACTUALLY HELP and contribute to the party!
It’s like they totally ignore the other players and their ability and just do their own Sh*t without thinking…

Linker and wugushi plays so nice together… But well. IDK I have poison hurr durr, I dont have time to wait for the link
(I have both characters, I know how dis works xD)

C1 clerics HAVE heals, I dont care for your stats, just drop some heals for all. NOT only 1x5 tiles for yourself. Dont refuse to USE the skills you have for the greater good.

You are a monk with priest c3, why dont you buff us?! It would go SOOOOOOOO much faster. It does not even take 10 seconds to buff and you can dps all you want afterwards.

-Tanks not tanking the boss/mobs away from the party.
-glassconnon Dps thinking they are the Tank

  • Linker not linking because “just” 3 mobs
    -etc etc etc.

Sorry, I just HAD to rant.
I am really into support builds. (Mage and clerics) I am a team player. I cant understand such behavior.
MMO not solo game.

You diceded to go wich ever route, you have those skills: USE THEM!!!
And try thinking about when/what to use in what situation. Just play as a team!
Matchmaking is doing some idiotic combinations sometimes, but I always managed to make it work. It just need a little coordination & Teamwork.

I will never think of just leaving a matchmaking party. Heck I even had 4 swordys (no Tank) and just me, a Linker. After telling them not to break my links, we managed to make a full run. Yeah it was a smaller dungeon blubbblubb bla, but that is not the point.
Teamwork can take you a long way in this game!!!


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