As a non healer Cleric I love dis.
Be a ârealâ tank and youâll never have that issue even with boss 15 levels above and that without a healer⌠pelt 3 here with 60 dex and the rest in CON. Never needed a healer in missions and I always could easily tank both end bosses togetherâŚ
As for OP⌠just let them talk⌠enjoy your game and if they annoy you honestly just afk sit somewhere and watch them reap what they sow.
Everybody do better DPS than you, yes you are a parasite.
What is your level please??? Just to know cause, I think that you donât know what is to tank 2 bosses on sia mission with PUGS.
When they have more than 10 levels they ignore a lot of blocks, its fun when they chain CC you.
Iâm 265 on this tank. I do have a maxed out pelt 3 high guard, maybe that helps a bit with the well timed anti-cc swordsman buff. Forgot its name. I have over 60.000HP too⌠that helps as well. Having a 280 cata 3 dragoon and this tank Iâm sure Iâve done more missions than you, and I can guarantee you that itâs not so difficult as a ârealâ tank to do them even while at a disadvantage. Other ârealâ tanks will agree with this. You will take damage but any competent tank will manage just fine if you donât âjustâ press C like mostâŚ
Let me add that most of my missions runs last from 8 to 10 minutes⌠ârarelyâ more than that even with the worst of groups⌠bad groups will aggro one boss at a time while good groups wonât really care and group them together to fast burst them. A good tank knows timing and knows when to engage or disengage skills/buffs. Knows when to move, when to C, or High Guard etc. I donât know why it seems so difficult for someâŚ
thnx,also IMC must optimize matchmaking to identify troll builds like âDPSâ Clerics and put them in low priority.
full support clerics are more of a load than dps/supprot clerics
a dps/support cleric can support just as wel land add some dps to help runs go faster
troll builds? uhhh wut?
u would rather hava a full support cleric than that?
You clearly have no idea what youâre talking about if you donât even know that dungeon instances only last 1 hour.
Itâs entirely possible to go through dungeons without a healer, thatâs that. People like you who like to get babysat all day by Clerics should just stop using the queue and make a party instead.
I was speaking figuratively, not literally if you didnât catch it. Thatâs why I mentioned 1~2 hours. The time it takes waiting around to queue up, to find a party then the time it takes to run the dungeon as everyone sits around a camp fire.
Then wasting more time as either you canât finish the dungeon because half of your teammates are dead or logged out and it closes so you have to start that whole process all over again and not even getting 1 run completed.
So I should have been more clear about it. No, not in 1 single run, but that doesnât stray from my original feelings towards it.
Also, you gonna call me a noob for bringing a Cleric along? Are you kidding me? I guess the real pros queue up with 5 swordsman in the party.
Funny you should say that you included queue time into the 1~2 hour time limit but NOT include it when queued with a healer. You simply have no excuse for your ignorance on widely known dungeon mechanics. Please donât make yourself look more like a fool, youâll regret it.
People like you are the ones who log-out in dungeon runs, and is the exact reason why those runs fail. There are multiple ways to finish a dungeon without ragequitting like a baby just because thereâs no babysitter to help heal up your sorry excuse for player skill.
There are also plenty of ways of avoiding damage entirely for a tank if he/she knows what he/sheâs doing⌠Same goes for plenty of melee classes as well as everyone else. Only concern here are the mages/ranged enemies that either you can skip, or wittle down one by one until the deed is done, thereâs no problem with that.
The thing is, if there are plenty of groups of people have managed to finish dungeon runs without a Cleric on every single dungeon so far, you simply have no excuse. You might as well just admit youâre a bad player at this point, but then again you already showed it to plenty of us.
Usually I consider the main benefit of having a healer in the group to be not needing to waste silver on countless potions to ensure the run goes smoothly.
If as a cleric you refuse to fill that role, you might as well be a lump of cheese in the party, laughing manically at your sub-par damage while refusing to access your given skill set to support the party.
Good luck getting any groups for end gameâŚ
Probably ran more dungeons without clerics than with clerics. perfectly doable. If people work with each other you can still get a good pace going. Doing campfires is really not a big deal, unless youâre in a hurry which just lmao what just make a premade. Itâll get all your runs done faster, you donât have to fuck up everyone elseâs dungeon counts because youâre impatient/bad, etc.
honestly, quitters are more shit than any non-heal oriented cleric can ever be.
Also, surprised a game as casual as this has so many straight up scrub archetypes. most things, bar earth tower and idk wanting to grind spion archers or something is workable with any group of decent players even without optimal builds.
6 million times true.
Donât get mad because youâre the leech who queues up for dungeon runs. There are people like you who contribute nothing to the party while they watch everyone else chug hp/sp pots.
But sure, you can get mad. Iâm getting my runs cleared in 15 minutes while you sit around a camp fire after every mob kill.
I think youâre the terribad here.
Funny that you say this, as my first character in this game is an attempt at a dd cleric⌠Seems itâll be funâŚ
Can you send a Screen Shot your equips please? I really want to see them. How much Block you have?
Actually your logic would be goodâŚ
âŚif the dungeons werenât timed.
âŚbut thatâs potentially another issue.
Leech? You shouldnât be pulling out words out of your own ass, makes you more of a fool than you already are.
It seems to me youâre projecting your leeching habits onto me, when youâre the one who fits the criteria quite well. I can see why, if you canât leech off a party in a dungeon run then you quit. Says a lot about what kind of weight youâre pulling when youâre in a party, and itâs apparently nothing.
Sure, quit a whole dungeon run when you can only get 3 maximum runs a day, essentially ruining the runs of multiple other people as well.
Meanwhile everyone else who managed to complete all 2/3 of their dungeon runs cleric-less because they arenât spoiled brats like you get to reap all the benefits of what a full dungeon run should give.
The terrible person is the one that ruins the fun for others because of selfish reasons. Just go share your IGN and server to everyone here so everyone can avoid you already, unless youâre too afraid to give it up like how youâre too cowardly to even try a cleric-less dungeon run.
Look at this ad hominem statement. Youâre making assumptions because you clearly cannot figure out what Iâm even talking about now. Do you even know what Iâve stated?
I have a problem with leechers such as yourself who end up throwing a camp fire after every mob kill and afking while putting in as little effort as possible. That is the reason why I donât bother sticking around to finish dungeons the majority of the time.
But yeah, keep goinâ camper. Iâm sure you love to slow your entire team down with those camp fires.
Also, you donât win your arguments by saying âgimme your IGNâ. Thatâs like saying I have 2 chars over Lv.200 so I win and btw I do.
Ad hominem? Pretty sure this was an insult fest from the start, lol. This is not an argument, itâs me plainly burning you to the ground.
See, let me ask, where the hell did you pull out that âleecherâ crap from? I never mentioned anything about it before, but suddenly there you are thinking Iâm a âleecherâ⌠from what? From nothing. You are the one assuming stuff here.
Now, a person who quits just because thereâs no cleric in a dungeon queue party? Now THAT tells a lot about you. It tells a whole bunch of things. That
- You canât pull your own weight.
- You like getting babysat by Clerics all day and think you canât live without one when you can.
- Youâre a leecher.
The very fact that you mentioned leeching in the first place seemed so out of place that itâs easy to assume that you are, in fact, projecting your playstyle onto this little feud of ours.
Exactly, might I ask, how did you come off that Iâm a leecher? Quote me on that one. See, I bet you canât find a quote that comes off that Iâm one. But I surely can quote you on that one to prove you are:
See, if youâre really persistent in thinking what youâre doing is perfectly acceptable, you can easily tell us your team name and server already so weâll be sure to know to avoid you when youâre queueing dungeons.
And again this isnât an argument. Itâs me burning you to the ground.
