I dont care about noone need me…i will play as i like.! i am not interesting to play the same build as everyone does. I prefer to be original.! even if i screwed it, doesnt matter if i fighting a god itself… i wont lose!!! . Someday i would create a guild where everyone is welcome, and the first goal will be defeat the strongers, show them even a bad build can defeat them.!!!
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I prefer to play with what class I like. I prefer any classes that favor two-handed sword.
The game is still early access. No major patch update yet. Do people even know what early access is?
I’m just going to ask is anyone surprised?
The PvE drawbacks of a Swordsman:
-Low range
-Lower damage than Wizards and Archers typically.
-Smaller AoE radius than Wizards
The PvE neutral of a Swordsman:
-More CC than Archers, but less CC/utility than Wizards/Clerics
The PvE perks of a Swordsman:
-Tankiest tree in the game by a large amount
-Has the only taunt and a huge aggro attribute
You chose to neglect their major PvE advantage and you are surprised when you aren’t a high priority for parties? Yes, it is unfortunate, but you really have to expect that. Swordsman aren’t meant to be able to compete with Archers and Wizards in terms of clearing potential. If they did, no one would play those trees.
We (Swordsman tree) are a more balanced offensive class. That is less desirable in PvE most of the time, as Min-Maxing is what clears the best. Don’t get discouraged. You can still be very useful; you just aren’t going to be the top pick for DPS slots for that very reason.
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I like this kinda thinking. I honestly thought “if no guild ever wants me will make one and gather outcasts and have fun” min-maxing and meta is too common place in MMOs these days. 15 years ago MMOs were more fun. These days everyone just wants to win and do the most damage…I miss when MMORPGs was more about the RPG…now we are being forced to be clones. I still have hope for ToS though…I am sure the classes will eventually be balanced and most dps swordie build will become viable. Until then we can tough it out or just roll another dps class. I’d prolly go with a Cleric equiped with sword and pretend I am a swordman without the dash.
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No thanks, then swordsman are forever punching bags.
I play swordsman because I like berserker character, strong melee style, movement, attack speed, aoe and so on.
I’m not a fan of tanks and I don’t want that every swordsman class has one single job, “being a punching bag and block” zzzzz.
Just give every swordsman class a good percentage scaling skill. 50-100% on some skills, that’s enough to compete with archers at least.
Archer have much more damage + range, they don’t have to dodge when stronger monster do their aoe spells.
Swordsman has to go melee, so why can’t they deal at very least the same damage? ( they actually should deal slightly more, like in every other balanced mmo) because RANGE is everything and a huge advantage
Do you even highlander 3?
I can 1 vs 10 lv 220 mages (when I was lv 147) in Alemeth forest and won.I doubt barb can do so.
And armor break plays a huge role against high Def bosses such as golems. Archers would suck my d for it.
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Well all say swordsman suck at PvE but i also hear swordsman suck at PvP? very bad -.-
I am Highlander 3 lvl 152 so far, i think its nice until now but i dont know how it is engame.
the +25% hp buff is still good.
Highlander 3 is so underrated. People say Barb is better, but don’t realize the Cleave buff was given in kTOS so they can compete with Highlanders in terms of damage vs bosses
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I have about 15.5k hp and I take 1 dmg from monsters and 500 ~ 1k dmg off bosses in siaulai 220 ~ 230, and I’m not wearing a shield, while that squire guy has a big shield and 40k hp and hes taking like 350 dmg off monsters and 2.5k ~ 5k dmg off bosses
Sooo Let me make something clear…
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You don’t have to carry a big bulky shield to be a tank
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You don’t have to dump a single stat point on CON to be a tank
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You have to wear a full plate armor set
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You need buffs
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You have to have very high Physical Defense / Magical Defense / And some Evasion
Have a nice day.
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The biggest issue here is actually the party 50% 4-class bonus. If there wasnt any bonus, most parties wouldnt mind having an extra warrior or 2. Remove the class balance bonus and this problem will be fixed.
A lot of times my parties have at least 1 Peltasta. It’s very commom to have 2 and I feel “rare” because I’m a High C3 with Corsair C1.
I see no advantage to have a lot of “tankers” at the same party (instead of one tanker and one DPS) and since it’s the most popular build now, it’s almost inevitable to find one at search party queue.
I prefer to leave the tank role for who really are a tanker.
They should put certain defining skills in each of the starting classes. Kind of like how clerics start with heal.
Archers starts with… swift step? i never played an archer, but that seems good so they can keep distance?
They should give mages something like an SP regen skill in rank 1 since they are always running out of it or maybe put surespell in rank 1
Swordsman should get a taunt, but give peltasta a better one or the class would be worthless.
BRB
Please tell me how you’re taking 2000-4000 less damage than the Squire you look down on. You have 2000 more physical or magical defense?
Sooo let me make something clear: don’t lie here. No one is impressed. You are just misleading new players with your bragging. Also, if your HP is that low in plate, you’re probably only around level 200, so you haven’t even reached anywhere near endgame content.
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A korean party at Earth Tower with NO Swash Buckling (just a Corsair):
Linkers aren’t nerfed on kTOS, but I see no difficult for this party.
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That’s what I see, there is no need for a tank in this game if you have a good linker keeping the mobs close, SB would help? yes, but another DPS imo is better.
I am lv 165 corsair c1 with 14k hp…is it too much lol?
I can burst down a group of mob while having high hp and Def to withstand their attacks.
In mission…turn on provoke and jump around like a mofo lol. Always use armor break when it’s up, and cross cut + skyliner if boss doesn’t immune to bleeding.
who say highlander is bad probably duno much about swordsman loool
No one is the denying the tankiness of Swordsman classes. The problem is in PvE you are either doing damage or taking it. You aren’t doing both.
If you aren’t taking damage, then really you should be doing as much damage as possible. The tankiness of your DPS classes is hardly a concern. It becomes more of a concern as the content gets harder near endgame, but gear and teamwork fixes that anyways.