New SP Usage is Insane

[Pokart]

Whatever makes you sleep at night.

New SP Usage is Insane

And yet you refuse to buy buffs from Pardoner shops, you refuse to do quests, you refuse to get a better weapon for your level range, you refuse to go fishing to eat fish beside a campfire, you refuse to use your skills more efficiently, you refuse to finish monsters with basic attacks instead of wasting SP to kill a single monster with AoE spells, you refuse to spend free TP to form a grinding party for your level range.

Anyway, why am I still arguing with a guy that’s still lvl 41 almost two weeks after Re:Build?

[fabricio_polo]

Yeah, you’re right. I never leveled up a single character doing quests and I’m not aware of the rewards.

Have fun leveling your character :*

/sarcasm

[Siete]

And yet you refuse to buy buffs from Pardoner shops

1-2 silver at 60% drop rate per enemy.

you refuse to do quests

When did I say such a thing?

you refuse to get a better weapon for your level range

That’s up to RNG, not me.

you refuse to go fishing to eat fish beside a campfire

First time I heard about that was in this thread.

you refuse to use your skills more efficiently

No such thing, what an asspull.

you refuse to finish monsters with basic attacks instead of wasting SP to kill a single monster with AoE spells

Who said I was not finishing off monsters like this? Another asspull

you refuse to spend free TP to form a grinding party for your level range.

Can I use free TP to create people to play with? Because there are none.

Anyway, why am I still arguing with a guy that’s still lvl 41 almost two weeks after Re:Build?

Because I stopped playing for a simple fact:
Skills consuming around 5% of my SP per use, which at max level don’t even get to 2% consumption, when having far less and worse SP management options is completely stupid and I simply got tired of playing a game publicited for having many choices forcing me to auto attack even when I’m given so many interesting skills.

Yeah, you’re right. I never leveled up a single character doing quests and I’m not aware of the rewards.

If you’re aware of those potions not regenerating ■■■■, why are you even mentioning them? Just for trolling?
Because you’re either trolling or ignorant.

[Pokart]

He’s not even leveling it. He just stopped playing at lvl 40 a week ago and decided to start trolling here. Because, yeah, a low lvl character really needs lvl 15 alchemist potions in order to play.

[Siete]

He’s not even leveling it. He just stopped playing at lvl 40 a week ago and decided to start trolling here. Because, yeah, a low lvl character really needs lvl 15 alchemist potions in order to play.

Finally you seem to get my point, low level characters have worse SP managing than higher level characters due to non-linear SP consumptions.

ToS right now is: “Here, you have all these 5 skills but be careful, if you use them you’ll have to stop playing for a while”

[Ennislol]

He’s not even leveling it. He just stopped playing at lvl 40 a week ago and decided to start trolling here. Because, yeah, a low lvl character really needs lvl 15 alchemist potions in order to play.

Finally you seem to get my point, low level characters have worse SP managing than higher level characters due to non-linear SP consumptions.

ToS right now is: “Here, you have all these 5 skills but be careful, if you use them you’ll have to stop playing for a while”

So you’re angry at having to manage resources?

[Battle_Forged]

Sorry guys but if resource management wasnt a hot button topic after re: build then why does this thread have 4,000 views and 250 replies in a week, on a game with like 2k players to boot.

Its fine if you like the new trend, its fine if you dont, but stop pretending it doesnt exist.

IMC revamped stats and had a stat to reflect HP Recovery and then flat out forgot to have SPR reflect SP Recovery. The more calm and rational folks have simply asked for that one fix, have SPR give recovery and people would all be happy.

[Siete]

have SPR give recovery and people would all be happy.

Either this or make the SP consumption linear, how come a skill at level 40 is 33 SP but at level 380 it’s only 100

[chillcross]

Sorry guys but if resource management wasnt a hot button topic after re: build then why does this thread have 4,000 views and 250 replies in a week, on a game with like 2k players to boot.

A good half of this topic is quite literally just 3 people going in actual mental circles, go scroll up for yourself mate.

That said, yeah. I wouldn’t mind if IMC readded SP recovery into a stat (Not sure which because SPR would literally just become a dump-stat again), or upped the SP recovery values per class upgrade, but if they didn’t I wouldn’t really mind either.

In the meanwhile, you can get by as long as you’re mindful. There, quite literally is the synopsis of the entire topic. You can get by as long as you manage yourself and keep your mana in mind.

[Siete]

You can get by as long as you manage yourself and keep your mana in mind.

Yes but it doesn’t change the fact that is broken.

how come a skill at level 40 is 33 SP but at level 380 it’s only 100

[mathias_cronquist]

#ToSKilledSPR

202002020202

[Ennislol]

You can get by as long as you manage yourself and keep your mana in mind.

Yes but it doesn’t change the fact that is broken.

how come a skill at level 40 is 33 SP but at level 380 it’s only 100

You realize just because something isn’t perfect, doesn’t mean it’s broken. I don’t think it’s perfect, I would like to see some tweaking, but I don’t think the game is unplayable. It’s manageable, but could use some modifications.

No one in this thread said the current system is perfect, but there are plenty of people in this thread crying like it’s the end of the world. You see the difference?

There are people giving very valid ways of managing and working in the current system.

[Siete]

There are people giving very valid ways of managing and working in the current system.

None gave a valid way at lower levels, which is where the issue exists because skills consume more SP at that stage than at level cap for some reason(Obviously broken scaling)
Only one guy mentioned Quest reward potions but those don’t work like regular potions and restore 10% of what regular potions do.

[Tankhime]

Perhaps you should consider that the people you are shitting on got to max level when the content was significantly harder than it is now.

Perhaps you should consider that those “high level” and “elite players” started off with no gear, and got to where they are by playing the game effectively, when there was content in rank8 that literally one-shot you from range.

Lmfao. Significantly harder?
That content was that difficult because they thought it was a good (really bad) idea to make trans’d armor a requirement to do normal content.
People needed Clerics to FADE BUFF THEM PAST MONSTERS in order to do quests in agro maps. That isn’t significantly harder. That’s unplayable.
You can’t play that garbage “”“effectively”"". Because you couldn’t play it at all.

Not to mention, there was so much bug exploitation back then that you could barely call anyone from that time “high level, elite players”.
There were a few, sure. But they were a small minority. Very small.

But then, I’m not surprised at all by your comment. Your idea of a good player, is a player that can deal with as much poor game design as possible.

[Siete]

Your idea of a good player , is a player that can deal with as much poor game design as possible.

Thus a game with 55k players fell down to less than 10% of that and the remains are mostly bots.

[dragonfeian]

Well, maybe you’re a couple?

Said from the white knight who ran here to to help his lil friend Remiri this is the most amazing thing in the world

Otherwise just learn how to build and play with your characters.

Still going with the get good? Go ahead, at the end it will be you and your whitey friend playing in an empty server

[Pokart]

Now you’re really grasping at straws calling me a white knight and Remiri’s friend.

The server I’m playing on is far from being empty, thanks for your concern.
Oh and you and him liking each other’s posts is so romantic. I’m feeling touched.

[Siete]

The server I’m playing on is far from being empty

Y’know, you sure filled the thread with lies and bullshit but heck, this is the biggest lie you could come up with.

[diane]

The server I’m playing on is far from being empty

Y’know, you sure filled the thread with lies and bullshit but heck, this is the biggest lie you could come up with

Maybe hes tryin to be like you?

[Pokart]

Man, the troll couple is really desperate. I filled the threads with lies and bullshit? I’m lying about Silute being well populated? That cheap bait isn’t even worth a mention this time.

@diane I’m incapable of reproducing such levels of dishonesty.