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New options for Elementalist

i see… prominence needs some rework then

You are correct, meteor gets boosted by 90 or 98%, can’t remember exactly, but it’s not 280 or 300%, at all.

You guys are right, boosted by close to a 100%

agny +3
meteor 8lvl
same mobs
no buffs

No agny:

With agny:

Agny+QC:

Questions?

Seriously? random number pics won’t beat datamined info, bro.

just try by youself, bro. Or ask some1 with agny if u havnt.

Better than assumptions…

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lol, better see what in the game, so just try it. Im 2 lazzy for video.

yeah, well there may be a lot of stuff added to the damage calculation, like for example agni also has a 200 base fire attack, which I think also gets multiplied for the final damage. Magic amp might also have been multiplied, etc.

I’m sticking with the actual infos that meteor adds 90+%

Also to add: Ice necklace is soon to come. Wouldn’t you be better off adding damage to Frost cloud than Meteor if you were to use an elemental necklace for an Elememe?

so u wanna say its works only with agny? Meteor have x4 dmg, so +200 fire from agny its about ±800 dmg. All other same.

Please visit the damage formula thread. You’re speading bs sometime ago.

it’s near 100%
Taking magic amp as average of 92
185

(1235 + (92)+2730 ) - 300 + 153+104 * 4 *1.4 * 0.5(elemental weakness) = 11239

With Agni

(1235 + (92)+2730 ) - 300 + 153+104 * 4 *1.4 * (1.99-0.5) = 33492

300 is mdef 153 = ledas cold property on Fire 1.5x

104 = angi half the usefulnes on fire. (1.99 = agni)
0.5 = elemental mismatch = decrease

why u think its work like this?


I didnt see any “-” in modifiers

I take off all my items and test on other fire mob - Kepari
No agny - ~9055. With agny - ~28018.
No agny simple:
(699+2730-196) *1.4 *4 *0.5 =9052
With agny (formula from u):
(704+2730-196+104) *1.4 *4 *(1.9-0.5) =26201
With agny (formula from link):
(704+2730-196+104) *1.4 *4 0.51.9 =17779
With agny (formula from link + x3):
(704+2730-196+104) *1.4 *4 0.53 =28072
BUT (!)
Red Rondo (poison)
No items at all
No agny - 18351; With agny - 39021.
No agny:
(699+2730-153) *4 *1.4 =18345
With agny (x3):
(704+2730-153+208) *4 *1.4 *3 =58615
With agny (x1.9):
(704+2730-153+208) *4 *1.4 *1.9 =37122
So i didnt know how its works, but its not just x1.9 for sure.

because that’s how it works as a common mod.

Also you are misisng the 0.09 which is effectly near 0.1
Elemental weakness is counted in common mod.
All common mods are addition or subtraction. and the base is 100%
For example armor Cloth is counted as a mod in common mod.

Pierce will do reduce of 25% > 100 - 0.25.

Elemental here is 50%. reduction so - 0.5 done.

Here is a wall of text

Common Modifiers

Elemental Properties

Fire :
+50% on Ice
-50% on Fire

Ice :
+50% on Fire
-50% on Ice

Lightning :
+100% on Ice
-50% on Lightning and Earth

Poison :
+50% on Earth
-50% on Poison

Earth :
+50% on Lightning
-50% on Poison

Holy :
+100% on Dark
-25% on Holy (kToS Only)

Dark :
+100% on Holy
-25% on Dark (kToS Only)

Soul (kToS Only) :
+25% on Dark and Holy
+50% on Soul

You can stay in denial or whatever because it is 99% + - or count it as 100% it doesn’t matter.

This is the difference with agni On a Non affected elemental mob.

With 200 extra property attack.

200 property attack with no elemental mismatch.

Meteor attr level 40

200 * 1.4 * 4 * 1.996 = 2235 damage.

Fits in totally. sorry bro.

check on fire and water mobs

Fire is 1.496 and water is 2.496 done.

meteor damage 11820 (50%) > 36212 (1.496)

Because elemental is already reduce. It is not 3 times.

Don’t feed him, is a waste of time.

Wanted to say something but then realized would be a waste of time trying to convince someone of the actual math which has already been found and proved within the game’s programming.

If he wants to deceive himself that his damage was increased by more than the actual, then by all means, believe yourself. just don’t spread false info on other players.

Game says agni increases meteor dmg by 99%, end of story.