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[New Defence System] what diference do have armor?

General Discussion
#48

Lmao, you cant say a game its dificult because of the lag, a game should be challanging anyways just by its regular standars, if u have lag that’s a thing but we are talking about general stuff here, the game has become very easy and we all know it simply by comparing the high level areas from before, and while i agree in some changes some others seem over the top.

Lag its one thing and game mechanichs are another whole history and i understand that lag makes things harder but please stay OT lol.

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#49

it should be but i need to use them or i will die, i mean i die anyway with armor, i’m not casual because this server is trash i mean.

#50

Here is to show how defense does reduce dmg. I’m lvl 235 BTW

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#51

Jynxie still hasn’t posted his “evidence”. This guy is such an idiot. SlyGoat already proved him wrong.

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#52

If he still believes that he does not need defense, by all means he should feel free to play the game naked. I just don’t want to hear anything about how “Weak” the class he uses is. So much players keep complaining about how they need to be buffed, but in reality they just don’t even know how to play an MMORPG right.

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#53

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ill upload the video if requested. Though it would take a while to upload. SlyGoat and you must be super happy, you could play Hello kitty online now i mean TOS much easier.

A question for balanced STR / DEX Swordsmans
#54

Im sorry but in which part of these screenshots are you soloing this? I see heal tiles in every screenshot

#55

Now you want me to solo lol. Cant you see im tanking the damage? Do you really think it was possible before being naked on frost lord?

#56

The whole point of this was about solo. Which SlyGoat did in his screenshot.

#57

Ahh you mean his end game mission? I cant solo mission because it’s to hard for me. Nah youre not worth my time, talk to your fellow end game mission player instead.

#58

This debate was over once you started to talk like a BR

#59

Yea sure, anything to add? I like BR, its bad to bad mouth them.

#60

And how much damage do you receive WITH armors?

I would definitely NOT consider 1,000 damage as tankable and solo-able. I barely survive with 300 damage from mobs.

I would accept something is solo-able if you are able to solo with minimum usage of potions.

#61

Why do i need to prove myself to you? Give me valid reason.

#62

Don’t waste your time, reason abandoned this fella ages ago.

Mute on sight.

#63

maybe because you made a bold statement in a public forum. If you did not care, you would have ignored the thread.

I personally don’t care if you want to torture yourself by wearing a cafrisun forever, but telling other people that a stat is useless, even though we already experienced the importance of its use suggests that you would like people to believe you… so, to do this, you must present proof :slight_smile:

#64

Ok ill bite you. However before i do that, i need your qualification.

Have you ever been in Sausys room before?
If yes, how much damage do frost lord give on you using frost cloud?

#65

I have not, which is why I am curious about this discussion as I wanted to find valid data about the stat so I know what I should plan on building for the future.

This is why I am giving you a chance to prove your point, but so far all I saw are personal negations and screenshots that actually prove the contrary as those damage you received in your screenshots seem waaayy too high for me. This is why I was asking how much damage you received WITH armors, so that I can compare if it would be worth it.

Because if you could lower the damage from 1k to around 300s, then I would say it would be worth investing in armors as that would be a 70% damage decrease.

But if it only lowered around 10% as thread starter suggests… then sure it won’t be worth it.

I shared my personal experience in my level to show people how much defense helped me as the damage was double without any armors, which is why, IN MY CURRENT LEVEL, I would say it is effective.

#66

Uhuh, so you dont know then. How can i take you seriously if you dont even have basic knowledge of that DG.

#67

I never used the dungeon as basis or reference of my thoughts.

Do you mean to say that, just because a person has less experience than you, you do not have to present valid proof to them as anything you say would be automatically considered true, just because you are more experienced?

The purpose of the thread is to discuss about the topic by sharing personal insights and collected data so everyone reading this would have an idea of what they could do based on what is written. How does your way of telling people “This is the truth because it is said by me, so everyone eff off” help us?