🍄 Archer builds/ Skill synergies / Mechanics etc Megathread! 🍄

lajkonikes · October 31, 2015, 2:30pm

I dont care how good or bad you are, whether you’re retarded or not, whether you respect me or not and whether you find me arrogant or not.

I don’t know which one is better, but ranger skills seem to be meshing better with fletcher skills.

At the other hand sapper is strong in the damage department and provides aoe. Strong aoe. Not as mobile as ranger’s.

Other then tenet chapel I didnt see that amount of mobs anywhere yet. So I’m not sure if you need that much aoe. Plus mobs attack your traps.

Anything else?

khsellhu · October 31, 2015, 2:50pm

Traps takes tiem to install. You need time to put claymore on a ground, and then you need time to activate it. Don’t forget, that mobs attack you without a pause. Claymore is expensive as hell and doesn’t do good damage until it leveled up (at least, on the 2nd lvl of chapel dmg wasn’t all that great, but it still works ok for 1st floor). Stockades are free and extremely good against ground targets. Besides, mobs do aggro on them, so they work as double stoppers. Detonate trap seems interesting, but hasn’t much of use, actually. Punjake takes too long to install, so unless you have about 10 sec on hand before mobs get close, its a waste. With sapper you use a ton of auto-attack, a ton of multishot. Fulldraw is your’s 2nd best friend, and Oblique is a sidekick. All in all, I have fun playing with this char. I have 45 dex and 36 str. Just got an Iron Bow for more crits. If you grind a bit, you can somewhat spam claymores, but there is no real need for it.
And, as I stated this before, I’m still soloing.

And yes, I don’t think that your way of asking for an advice is an appropriate one. Try to be more polite and less aggressive.
Besides, this is a freaking beta. No one here played this game for very long. How do you expect ppl to know anything and everything and give you an advice in every little thing? Rather than looking for help, you should try it yourself. Leveling isn’t that hard and there are free skill/stat-reset scrolls. You can utilize them to come up with a perfect build.

yuji03382 · October 31, 2015, 3:12pm

or one that fits your playstyle and budget.
just dragged myself to hunter and im enjoying it quite a bit, experimented going around the SPR route for that oblique spamming while leveling and it was quite an enjoyable ride too, so kudos for that!

lajkonikes · October 31, 2015, 3:37pm

I might just try the spr archer idea myself, saving up on pots sounds awesome.

mateus_castelanp · October 31, 2015, 3:54pm

I’m rolling a spr archer and it’s awesome. Before I couldn’t solo for the life of me

ponponke · October 31, 2015, 3:58pm

I reset my lv65 Quarrel Shooter stats to put my 40 DEX into CON instead (and 70 STR as before). I nearly double my Health Points, that’s nice when fighting boss. The block rate is still a bit low and overall I’m not very satisfied.
Probably going to reset to a mix of DEX and SPR.

bycr93 · October 31, 2015, 4:19pm

Hi @lajkonikes

I’d like to make an archer from your first build archer 1 > archer 2 > hunter 1> hunter 2 > and ending with wugushi.

How would my stat allocation be like and how do i get myself a companion so my hunter skills would work? does the companion comes with the class change??

and do archers use the mouse or keyboard settings?

Please advise me! or anyone from the community with a knowledge on the build!

heyushoosh · October 31, 2015, 4:45pm

What is the build in that rogue youtube video?

lajkonikes · October 31, 2015, 5:01pm

Looks like full str archer-ranger2-scout-rogue 2. At least from the hotbar.

@bycr93 thats what I am doing right now.

My suggestion would be to try a somewhat limited version of the spr archer. That would mean:
-go full spr
-get multishot to 5, oblique to 5 on c1 archer

the saved points put into multishot on c2 archer and max oblique later, I’d say swift step after.

It is limited because in the build I saw the guy had c3 archer. Keep in mind you can hand in achievements in the main city to an npc named Lena and get more icoins -using which you can reset at anytime if you dont like it. I’m full str currently, I think a dex build is better but this is what I use just now. Mainly because if you don’t remember to feed the pet and he has no stamina - he’s hella slow. He won’t engage in combat fast with no stamina so you get to tank more. So there’s that.

I use mouse setting, its the usual one you see in mmorpgs with wasd being your movement keys and I’m simply used to it that way.

You do get a voucher for it so yes the companion is free.

heyushoosh · October 31, 2015, 5:09pm

Would you mind creating me a build similar to that? Does he go full STR?

lajkonikes · October 31, 2015, 5:28pm

Well yes he does, I just said that lol. Easiest way is use skill simulator while watching the clip and just identify the skills he uses and take the same ones. Icons are the same.

Or if time is not an issue I can do it when I’m back from work.

heyushoosh · October 31, 2015, 5:36pm

I would really appreciate it. Thanks.

bycr93 · October 31, 2015, 5:37pm

@lajkonikes

Yeah i saw a guy going full SPR and didn’t look back. I’ll probably give it a shot.

My friend said archer has serious AOE issues and can’t do well in that aspect and he said that it’s hard to control the archer.

Is it true?

Rhagius · October 31, 2015, 6:00pm

yes, more or less. oblique shot is unreliable since the arrows target random mobs in the area after the first one or simply don’t hit more than 1 at all, the 3 target limit for oblique makes its high sp costs even more annoying,
hunter aoe has the drawback that in order to do aoe damage you have to hit the right enemy so the splash hits the surrounding foes, but your pet tends to choose its own targets so that is kinda annoying.
for some reason the best aoe archer has is multishot, which isn’t aoe
depending on your control scheme the archer is easier/ harder to use, depends on what you prefer.

khsellhu · October 31, 2015, 6:22pm

Okay.
So, stockades are the best trap ever (at least, on Sapper C1). Claymore is expensive and, well, sometimes hard to plant. Punja are unreliable, as you can’t use it whenever you want. Though, it deals a pretty good dmg as well as clearing an area from mobs, throwing them to the sun. Detonate traps is actually great, but only in specific situations. It doesn’t deal a lot of dmg and sometimes just beign used in vain, but if you manage to lead a boss into it’s own traps and then use Detonate, it would bring in some damage. It wasn’t exactly a life saver, but helped a lot in a fight against Harpie.
Still, traps are almost completely useless against flying targets.
Overall, I’ve started to enjoy this class even more. You have to actually think how to use your skills.
Still, I really think that Sappers should be able to craft their own traps. 'Cause why the hell can I craft a, for example, Iron Bow, but can’t make a simple claymore mine =_=

lajkonikes · October 31, 2015, 6:43pm

Thanks for sharing your experience!

OmegaDivider · October 31, 2015, 7:35pm

So, I really.

Really.

Really like the idea behind Fletcher and I’m sick of seeing fellow Archers suffer at the hands of Swordsmen! …But I’ve no idea how to build one. I was originally going to go Archer>Ranger>Ranger>Ranger>Fletcher>Fletcher, but Ranger just seems too lack luster and like all of the skills I used will easily be replaced when I turn Fletcher…

Any suggestions on a more useful path progression?

Potatoes · October 31, 2015, 7:45pm

Since the last update i noticed that stockades do damage whenever the enemy pass through it. Before it, each enemy could trigger the trap only one time. So if my char was not bugged before, this is a really good improvement, the “go to” option for C1.

I don’t expect that IMC lowers the price of Claymores anymore. It’s more than clear that they want it to be the “use only in special cases, not for grind”.

In general the class don’t feels like a sapper, but a kamikaze. However i’ll not prolong myself and let it for my feedback.

khsellhu · October 31, 2015, 7:55pm

I won’t call him a kamikaze, I managed to monopolize room and grind there on the 1st floor of Chapel. Exp is going up fast, no need for party, only a handful of hp/sp pots required. It was a waste to use claymore there, but stockades + multishot + full draw were quite effective. Though, there is almost no chance to stand still, as you have to run, run, and run.
Stockades can be put right under the foot of your enemies, but you’ve to face them to deal more damage (or actually deal any at all, lol). I’m now wondering 'bout going for all 3 circles of sapper and getting something else for 6th circle.

lajkonikes · October 31, 2015, 8:24pm

Confirmed, SPR archer is the way to go at least until level 130-140, maybe even 150 depending on gear.

Even on c2 archer c1 hunter, my dps has been increased tremendously - not only I attack faster, my oblique that replaced my autoattacks attacks two enemies for more damage then my autoattacks with 120 str, there’s literally no drawback to the spr build currently.