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🍄 Archer builds/ Skill synergies / Mechanics etc Megathread! 🍄

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#244

From here: Critical Rate Formula Discussion
Actual Crit Rate = N * (Crit Rate - Crit Resist)
Where N ~= .4

Str adds 1 damage AND 1 crit damage % while dex only adds crit rate, but also defenses .
For the multi hit skills with small base damages that archer has STR really scales well, compared to say barbarian who gets HUGE base damage on skills and can scale dex very well.

I’ve been going basically 1:1, favoring STR by about 10 points but I’m going to probably start moving to 2:1 soon or like… 4:3

#245

@grapp10

1 damage…that’s so mediocre. Basically you whether have to have funds to get a godly weapon in order to build dex/con/spr or you have to go for full str to do any damage. :weary:

#246

All damage stats scale like this besides DEX which has diminishing returns when it gets high. People see 1 damage and think its terrible but that’s how the game works. The real scaling is once you have a decent crit rate, crit damage % + 1 damage adds up and scales really well. Weapons also scale slowly. Its really hard to mess up your stats in the early levels if you just put everything into either STR or DEX. Impossible even. Also a ton of scaling comes from skill levels and attributes.

#247

I heard that Karacha set, the one who give 4x boost to Backstab damage was fixed. How was it fixed exactly? Does the effect removed, or just nerfed? By the way, got this video (also the one who did the 30k+ backstab damage video) that shows a Rogue while bossing with backstab, which adds to my concern, is Backstab’s CD really 20s and not 10s? Would appreciate it if someone can answer this question. TY. Btw, here’s the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sgp1Uh-wJk

Still waiting for an answer.

#248

None of us got to rogue yet, I’m not even going for it. You might wait quite a bit.

#249

Does the +aoe attack items work for archer? Like vubbe gloves? Also for oblique, does it even crit? Or im just unlucky that I dont see a crit when using the skill?

#250

Whats the opinion on Fletcher? Is it strong/Can be strong?
Someone can help me with a build to make a good fletcher? Archer into hunter or ranger or sapper?
And theres any build for sapper? Is it good and what would be the best?

Thanks for helping! :smile:

#251

Ranger or sapper. :camel:

#252

Recently i tried out dex 2 spr 1 stat build and wow was it glorious!
So I was thinking should I go continue my Hunter -> Hunter or go to Hunter -> Arch0r for some top kek oblique shots

#253

What would you recommend and whats the advantage of both?
And it would be archer/archer/ranger(or sapper)/ranger(or sapper)/fletcher/fletcher? Or ranger1/sapper1 and fletcher3?

I seen someone posted a build of sapper2/fletcher2 but I would really like more opinions on those builds so I can nolife grind it and help proving archer isnt weak heheh, im really confused about builds x.x

#254

You cant go fletcher until rank 5. Pick whatever you prefer.

#255

i have a question if kneeling shot, for pvp build seens good, but have to max to 10
for Archer c3 or Archer c2 is good 5/5, i didn’t seem yet

#256

I am around level 40 and anything i’ve tried seems horrible.

I tried to get to 50 dex, and the rest into STR; i got a +3 Gulail which should be a pretty good weapon, 5 upgrades into swift step crit buff, yet the char sucks horribly.

I’ve tried full SPR, but my skills don’t really hit hard.

(currently c2 archer, job almost 15 so about to class again)

#257

Well i was hoping for some helping about what would be better, on a topic exclusively for archer builds and discussion, not whatever i prefer lol, but whatever thanks anyway, ill find some opinions with ppl willing to help more.

#258

You didnt even read the topic if you’re asking such questions to begin with, use the search function next time.

Whats better? Did you even state how you wanted to play? Whats your idea? What am I, a mind reader now?

You can make both work I imagine. Good luck in other threads.

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#259

do you think that iron bow is the best overall for Dex builds?

#260

No, you have better bows down the line. Use tos database if you’re interested in whats ahead of you. Its on the same site the skill simulator is.

Im using hawk bow currently, I dont know how people are having trouble as archers honestly. I’m almost full strength, I crit occasionally with the helping of swift step. I dont do the best autoattack damage but my companion helps with his autoattacks reaching 900 right now sometimes, it being a small aoe too. For bosses I multishot stuff down and it dies. I chug pots like a madman, I also save up exp cards if I need a quick replenishment during a boss fight for free.

#261

sorry, I should have better articulated my question. I was thinking about level 40.

I bought a Gulail and I paid it a lot, while an Iron Bow seems like a much much better choice for a full DEX char, right?

#262

It is better if you have a high crit chance, I dont so its trash for me.

#263

How do you build your companion? All attack damage?