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It’s a placeholder solution until something is done about it?
Please read my other comments, I just gave the OP a solution to her so desired dodging.
Gear was mostly equippable by everyone. Basically everyone had the same gear. The only difference was your stats underneath.
That is a joke. For real. You are at least a Cleric/Archer or Swordsman with a SPR build to talk that?
Please STOP talk things based on what you think and lets be based on facts.
Tell me a game where the Magic is so much overpowered:
- Instant cast.
- Unblockable (not even with shield, that is also other thing weird: be forced to build the same build for that class, only to have any chances of survive)…
- Undodgeable.
- Big Damage of Area.
- Constants Skills.
- Skills of Protection that also make damage.
- The class that make more damage, is also the class that has the most high HP, meaning even if someone touch the wisard, he can have much more chances of survive.
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Bullshit should be dodgable.
perhaps more magic defence in new armor can suffice
Troll post should be dodgable. =) if you want to make a magic able to get dodged, then be prepare make it to be able to gain critical as well. Magic attack cannot be dodge but they lose the chance to critical, same to physical attack they grant access to high damage from critical but might get evaded. Now you should think how if magic grant crit =)
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Then so be it. But in order for wizards to get crits, it must invest in dex as well. See the problem here is, swordsman needs to invest in STR, CON and DEX to even be viable in PVP, while as a Wizard, you only need to spend your entire points in CON if you’re focusing on PVP. And no need to mention that a swordsman needs to close the gap. Yes they have dash but wizards has tons of CC skills. You can lock a swordsman in place if you are playing smart. Oh and let’s not forget dispellers.
It’s just ridiculous to think about the odds stack against the swordsman class. Almost unwanted in PVE, and is easily destroyed in PVP.
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If only half of the evasion worked against magic it would be worthless.
I think the main thing here is, wizards don’t need to invest in Dex to hit anything, while other classes really have to. Wizs can just put everything in Con, no brainer. While others have to balance STR, DEX, and CON.
You almost forgot swordman invest in CON will get more hp while mage get nothing but the lame magic def from SPR, which nobody will invest on.
Well you should not compare between swordies and mages. Their roles are totally different. If you never play mages then go to try it and you will realize it isn’t OP as u think just because the magic are undodgable. Mages have really annoying cast time which easily get interrupted and even for those instant skill (without cast), they are having real slow animation before and after cast.
Regarding CC skills, you are having wrong thoughts for wizards. I am a wizard myself and I have struggles over many builds. The conclusion is there is no perfect wizards. PVP-oriented wizards are mostly suxk in PVE, so does the PVE-oriented wizards are doing so so in PVP only. And pve-build wizards are so dead when face cata-dragoon build or doppel. They have not much CON and DEX for tank and evading. Tell me which build of those wizs that make you so frustrating, then I will tell you their weakness.
the problem is
pvp wiz > pvp sword man + archer
pve wiz in pvp > pve sword man + archer in pvp
also
pve wiz > pve sword man + archer
so wiz win all the thing and you called that normal and not need to be nerf ?
btw
no one giving a damn about SPR, even wiz are up to CON build and having both high damage and defense + hp that 's why this game wiz is so broken, high damage, high def - hp - block rate, many cc, long range, big aoe, cannot do anything against magic attacks
Why dont you try to build a wizard then? Tell me if you can reach lvl240 with your CON build. I chop my head off if you can make a high damage, high def - hp - block rate, many cc, long range, big aoe wizards.
most of people are complain about wizard in PVP not PVE
and this game PvE is quite easy, you can have easy time from lv 1 to 255, 256-280 is a different story but you can easy have an pt for grinding if you compare to sword man or archer.
The korean 's battle league top 100 is a bigest proof for wizard (and clerics also) being too over power in pvp on this game.
you have no right for defense wizard because magic classes like wizard and cleric in this game is always OP and all people know about that
so you know for make the game balance, nerf the OP thing and buff the weak stuffs is always what the game producer always do.
if an pvp game without an acceptable balance it will not last long and will close soon because pvp player will not accept it and leaving.
also pve side of TOS is very boring, so another side is pvp which is seems more sucks
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And so they invest into PVP-build stats you complaint them for building it? O.O how about you make a swordman/archers with full STR and CON. I bet you can beat the wizards since they dont have DEX at all for evade you skill anyway. Go for it? =)
Regarding the clerics, they are known to be powerful not because of magic undodgable but it is because they are hard to be killed, especially Plague Doctors due to their immunity to debuffs and ability to heal themselves up. Makes them able to torture you slowly to death while they are almost invincible. Before times up they can always heal themselves up to max hp and so you are lose.
**edit : Well i m not going to say much more, make a wizard yourself and try it. They are not so OP as you think.
no idea if you are stupid or not
as an magic user what you need is only CON and INT (most of pvp build are high CON) to win against ALL CLASS
an physical user you have to need STR for damage, CON for hp to not got one shot and DEX to not missed your attack
if you think a type that only need 2 stat are equal the other which need 3 stat your brain may got damaged
if you think you only need STR and CON you also wrong when melee class are very hard to touch every range class except if you build cata c3. Also having no DEX will make your attack miss alot, especially against archer because most of them are high DEX
if they are not OP tell me why in top 100 of kr ranking class which fill it the most are wizard ?
it’s bullshit to say “make a wizard yourself” because there 's many proof about that.
also i have no interest on OP - top tier class that required no player skill, just the class power itself
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i would also like to request to have archer’s auto attack to be avoidable.
because if an archer spam auto attacks, any kind of magic channeling/casting is interrupted (unless you have surespell which not 100% of mage builds are using in pvp),
and on the recent kTos patch (sub0 nerf), sub0 will not be effective against this kind of tactic (reflect and freeze only works on melee).
something like this:
how archer auto attack cannot be avoided ? are you blind that 2 archer auto attack each other and missed alot ?
just because those wiz and cleric in pvp have no DEX that their evasion is too low to dodge archer 's attack
and complain about sub zero shield got nerf from affect both range - melee to melee only ?
you must be a jerk wiz
you should be proud because that shitty shield still have very high freeze chance and prema duration make melee class almost can’t even touch you.
get out of this thread before many physical class user throw shiet to your face
have you ever knew about Bloodletting? what a kid. LOL
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