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Lvl170 - 2H vs. Xbow + Mana-mana - Current BIS

I’m in Telsiai. Materials cost is expensive - 72k calcite cost for a single awakening of Mana-mana while arde dagger calcite only costs 30k. I think it has to do with the number of stars an equipment has.

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Oh I’m in Telsiai also :wink:

Sure I’ll take care of the mats, well if you have free time and nothing to do, bring me :smiley: IGN: GunburN

may I ask about “phada”? Where do u find “Gem Bracelet”. I research a lot and none of it confirm. Thank you by advance.

Afaik, also none can be found in kTOS. so dont expect too much from it.
Current BIS is still Glad Band and Sissel Bracelet.

Someone did link a crafted Phada in Telsiai so it does exist.

really? when was that? then the mystery where “GEM BRACELET” was solved.

btw, someone shared the info in comments and just posted last week:

EDIT:
here they say they cannot find that GEM BRACELET:

could you give me a name of the person who linked please?

Has anyone done a comparison between an S.K.S + Manamana vs Maga Bow damage on Large enemies?

I have both and I like using both, just wondering which one is considered better overall for bosses and by how much. I love the 1k hp from Maga bow though and I’m wondering if the damage difference is small enuogh for me to use Maga Bow over Xbow + manamana

If you checked this one:

then you can compare it.

SKS +Mana is superior than Maga bow (at large) but if you really want those +1k hp then its really up to you. just dont forget the +35 critrate from Mana-mana and +1ms :slight_smile:

I think it’s a given that you’re better off using Xbow+Off-hand on everything else except flying where you swap to 2H-Bow for that.

The Physical Attack of mana mana works to increase the running shot damage?

afaik, Yes it does. and Mana-mana is the current BIS for SRs,

as 64 PhyA + 278 lightning damage.

However I do not have personal experience as SR. Might need help from @Punkd if he’s not busy :smiley:

Afaik, Running Shot uses your primary physical attack into running shot’s damage calculation. Only the effects and not the attack range of the subweapon will get calculated. However, certain class skills scales off of the offhand like SR’s Retreat Shot and Concentrated Fire. The same can be said with cannoneer skills scaling off the damage of their subweapon cannons.

Sorry… I thought retreat shot :smiley: hahaha that’s why I called your attention. my bad.

So SR’s retreat shot scale with off-hand weapon, meaning your pistol, and Mana-mana is the current BIS, have you compared or have you compared it with Handgun, +1 RS skills?

btw, im shooting with my bow (Z) and my pistol ©, but it seems to appear the have same damage, i wonder why. my Primary Attack is stronger than Secondary.

does the lightning atk^278 apply to all attacks?

Like multi-shot/barrage it adds +278 to each hit?

Yes, making Xbow+Mana-mana superior to any 2hand bow on non-flying.

grr wish there was a mod to show the bow on your side only even if your using a xbow because I hate the crossbow reloading animation.

@Mamark

Hi, I made the image cleaner for reference so if you wish to update the first post with a better spreadsheet, here it is. Only change is to include tables for just crossbows, crossbows paired with manamana and bows.

If there are any questions, I will drop in from time to time to answer them.

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Thank you for updating @Lyralei !

May I have request though?
->Could you insert a row and include Isbality vs Demon monster as it might be the BIS vs WB :wink:

Thank you in advance!

@Mamark

As requested:

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