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It’s One Handed Sword VS Spears attack

It’s not a big difference,but spears have the diverse attack against size.

meh so Hacka is OP now :smiley:

fixe weapon damage woulded be a good thing.

Tell me hurt more a arrow on leg or a spear on leg? xD

looks like they buffed hakka, good news…

Hey guys, i’m taking these for Q&A topic:

Q3. If critical attack is under DEX now, does that mean STR will no longer have an influence on anything critical-related?
A3. That is correct.

Does anyone tried on Ktest server to see if a critical hit is still giving at least the +50% damages?
I also want to know if the critical attack is considered as additional attack value in case of a critical hit, as additional raw damage or damages that are still multiplied by 1.5 time.

To explain my point, if we take a skill like Cavalery charge (mono hit to make it easier). Consider that we have 100% crit to make it easier.

the skill factor is this one : [700 + 70 × ([Skill Level] - 1)].
For a level 5 skill we have a 980% skill base attack.
In case of critical we have 980*1.5 times albeit a 1470% of Attack.

As we have extracted yet:

10 STR = 25 P. Atk
10 DEX = 62 Critical Attack
A crit for 10 STR on this skill will be translated to 367.5 effective damages against +62 (or 93 if multiplied) with DEX.

It is the case of a really STR favorable skill because of mono-hit but even for Skarphuggning that is a 6 hits skill:
Its Skill factor [500 + ([Skill Level] - 1) × 50] *6 hits
so 700% or 1050% and it is still 262.5 additional damage against 62 or 93…

It seems that dex is only good for low level skills with small base attack factor: Try with barrage:

181 + 10.3 × ([Skill Level] - 1)
so 325% for lvl 15 barrage or 273.7 for lvl 10 or 232.5% for lvl 5.

2.32*25 correspond to 58 damages instead of 62 damage from Dex for Lvl 5 Barrage.

2.73*25 correspond to 68 damages from STR for Lvl 10 Barrage.

3.25*25 correspond to 81 damages from STRfor Lvl 15 Barrage.

So unless the critical attack is AT LEAST multiplied by the critical factor (150%), even skills with low Skill factor will deal more damage with STR than with DEX…

In the case of my actual Archer 1, Ranger 3, Rogue 3, Hakkapell, STR will be better for nearly all the skills except archer skills…

Hey, Hackapelles!

I just made a video showing how the Class is doing in kTEST. First of all, sorry for the lag, KR ping is not good for South American player :'3

  • Made with Ranger and Fletcher C3 because it’s easier to stack arrows.

  • The Equip in this demonstration is the White Common gear the game give us to test at the beggining of the game. It will be amazing with our legit strong gear!

  • Cavalry Charge is your best friend now. It makes Crits a lot easier and now has 2 Overheats!

  • Storm Bolt and Skarp are basically equal on DMG now. Just varies between Leather and Cloth Types

  • Since Calvary Charge helps on crit, tried full dex to see how it goes with the Crit Boost. Not that good as STR… also, now we really need STR to get some ACC, with only 20 STR i was missing a Lot.

I can get a Class Reset every day in the server, if anyone wants to request some builds to test, i can do it and Record!

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Storm Bolt still has no lv100 attribute?

Nope, still no Storm Bolt (lv100) Attribute

Storm

Bolt

Just to not spam

Sometimes you win,some lose…

Cavalry with 2 OH is still a great buff besides the good skill factors.

try Archer 3 - Quarrel Shooter 3 - xxx - Hackapell

FULL DEX, Level 10 kneeling shot + level 5(7) running shot + hackapell sword and crossbow, how much damage will that do?

Thanks for the demonstration, but wait, I thought arrow stacking was a goner (according to IMC’s balance plans, there’d be no more innate - def stacking from arrows by archers), is it still really in place? I think another hacka user said something about Skarp simply doing more hits if used after Storm or something on those terms.

Do you mind checking it out for sure, please?

If we don’t need to worry about arrow stacking anymore it opens up some building possibility.

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@kriiokrio Attack Speed will be horrible because of the ping, but i’ll try Just to test the DMG! Maybe Appraiser for the “x” will be the optimal choice?

@yurichalps That i didn’t know… maybe i was stacking arrows in vain… i’ll try later! Today i’m taking a look at the Scout C3 Falconer Mergen build, tomorrow i’ll get a new Reset and test out kriiokrio’s build to see this too!

Do not take appraiser + hackapel for the buff.
The thumbs up buff will NOT apply to sword off-hand.
Only to ‘real offhands’ such as pistol, shield, dagger, cannon.

Though swords will still get [main hand] - gem bonus.

I am sure arrow stacks are removed.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the new Hackapel!


I will update the first post once the ktos gets the balance patch. Or Jtos even. They were promised to get it this month / next month.

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“Bong TOS” demonstrating Hackapell after patch

Ranger C3 Rogue C3 Hacka, All STR.

Still dismount when use Feint :'3

looks like charge finally has a longer distance

Added some (already posted) ktest vids to first post.

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I know I’m late , just wanna tell you that extra ice damage still bugged, I can confirm that. (but u still get the additional line tho)
ahahaha :sweat_smile:

so i saw some videos early that you can use skills right after you charged target, can.sombody confirm this? it would be a great news for rogue hakkas like myself

Is it ok to use a Harvester on Hacka?

I got one with 4sockets and a almost R8 Archer so i though it would be usefull

Yes, put in 4 gems and you’re good to go.

Which non-practo xbow should i use? My build doesnt haver QS3 and every xbow has low stats :’(