i thought they change new seed bomb max target from 5 to 10.
but this doesnt do the justice as well without attribute like piety:focus.
at maximum on its own new seed bomb should be able to reach 3k+ x 10 = 30k+ per overheat assuming all the splashes are stacked.
but then seed bomb will still be in same situation like gregorate where there is less party member/installation or in new seed bomb case less mob, the skills dmg drop drastically, making your possible 15 skill points become a waste.
even with contents like cm the mobs are spreaded in quite distance, unless the splash area effects is awesome, but i doubt that. and even in content like ds pt/solo you can aggro less than 10 elites+boss, sometimes theres even less mobs if your kill speed is nice which means reducing the dmg capability.
therefore such attribute like piety:focus shouldve implemented for skill like gregorate/new seed bomb that calculate the loss and increase the dmg.
like if seed bomb only detect 1 and given the max target is 10 that will increase its dmg by 10 times / 1000%. and when gregorate spread by only 1 and give its max target is 5 it will increase the damage by 5 times / 500%.
its simple imc cmon
Ya mean like this?
[Arts] Piety: Focus
An art for Piety has been added.
-Increases the damage of Piety when there are 5 or less targets.
-The smaller the number of targets, the greater the damage increase.
Iâm not too sure, maybe the fact that the plants have no HP so they canât be killed, and the plantâs attack is basically a rather short linear range that can hit more than one target, but because it IS a short linear attack, donât expect to hit many things with it. They also stay for a short time before disappearing, but you can re-summon them with Chortasmata as long as Carnivory buff is up since the buff is technically 100% uptime.
I only have a surface level understanding about summons, so I canât pinpoint any useful things about them, sadly.
Just to confirm, 5 was just a random number I came up with as an example, Seed Bomb can indeed hit more than 5 targets. Iâm really not feeling it much about new Druid, to be honest.
yeah.i mean like i said.
no need to hope so much. the plant is still garbo, if its not rework for the better now, that means it will take another eon again for druid to get another rework. gg imc, gg ktos community
they shouldve make carnivory summon moringponia mini gribas, and make an art that will change it to summon griba.
griba will hit aoe like big skeleton arts and causing poison by chance and mini griba will explodes.
the synergy is mini griba can be marked as seed bomb target and when they get the debuff deals 2x dmg based on carnivory skill level.
also its going to be funny when you enter moringponia and the griba fight each other. 
maybe the nerfs in the druid could be some kind of preparation for a possible vaivora in the near future just like they did with the inquisitor ?.
Lmao
vv druid be like:
thorn hit x2
all done, we can call it a day team!! -imc
I am very upset should that happen and yetâŚI cannot refute this idea since it hs happened on numerous occasions⌠still dont give imc ideas 
maybe xD who knows I think his VV will not be for the lycan which is already an overused skill.
Considering the state of Cleric DPS at the moment, the last thing Magic Cleric needed was a nerf really. Druid just got really complicated DPS-wise (RIP its healing if you use Guardian Saint attribute), Crusaderâs healing (lel, like what are they trying to do with Guardian Saint attribute to make you pick between damage and healing, then reducing Crusaderâs healing to non-existence) and its strongest DPS move Holy Smash got screwed, and Exorcist got screwed by lack of Skill Points and Damage cap. I also think about Plague Doctors who now have to decide between survability or final damage with Guardian Saintâs new attribute.
The only reasons I can think of for these changes are (none are really good):
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To make room in the DPS rotation for Sadhu, Chaplain and Krivis (too many overheats) while still keeping an âoverallâ DPS increase in a Magic Cleric build, though this forces builds to start incorporating them âŚ? (Pfft, IMC left those classes out to rot for so long they literally become cancer to screw with Magic Clerics)
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Open up new support DPS hybrid playstyles in Additional Damage builds and Summon Cleric Support builds that can also heal since they donât benefit from Guardian Saint 10% final damage attribute and can make use of the healing power like Priest-Chaplains or Druid Chortasmata Healing Garden (Naaaaaah)
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Intentionally nerf various aspects of classes to make way for new Vaivora effects and Arts (Sasuga IMC).
Funny thing for me is that all this is at the expense of Magic Cleric classes, meanwhile Physical Clerics just watch the whole thing go by while getting free 10% final damage and Krivis changes (and Druid changes I guess, lel) at virtually no cost (like really, what is healing power to Physical Cleric).
i personally dont have problem with guardian saint because they change it into âfinal damageâ which i supposed much better than just âdamageâ or âcrit dmgâ
of course the number is still pretty darn low to me.
this is practically a bootleg version of critical shot [50% final dmg on crit increase and absurdly 100% uptime] [which makes ranger broken, and surprisingly still untouchable cause damn the whale so into it now] but without the need to crit it seems.
also because i rarely use heal cause i always use faith for extra burst and heal is like 3rd option of healing source next to 2/3 type of hp potions simply because using pot animation is so damn faster than using heal and you can use it while walk/run which is nut. heal is my very last option when every hp pot in cd.
to me this simply make option between dps vs heal become more clear, kinda like old fanaticism in base class, but again pretty darn low boost!! startup got 100% with 20-30s downtime, ranger got 50% with 100% uptime!!, and cleric need to lose its healing capability by HUGE sum to get, 10%, cmon⌠15% sounds like more acceptable at very least. 20% fair and above that you are being generous and smart imc.
also imo pd healing factor doesnt really need guardian saint, its self healing is awesome as it is.but with the huge heal reduce i ll definitely pick healing guardian saint over dmg boost if the content is medium hard above simply because healing factor heal is dope.
as for sadhu idk man it passed its rework session rather disappointing and the next time it will get another rework again is unknown cause many other neglected classes are queueing here
as for exo its finally good to see koinonia which rarely used kicked out for new magic circle. i hope the same fate happen to carnivory, transform, shape shifting, iron maiden in pve, malleus except for just monk benefit etcs.
what i see is exo now have 3 magic circle skills which is going to be great if you choose the path of magic circle steroid but then the problem is its lv 4 vv is focus on rubric which you cant max if you want to maximize exo magic circles.
but hey!!
maybe exo vv lv 8 lv or lv 16 or lv 256 or lv 1024 will have grand cross +1000% dmg.
its ok we love grind cm and ds soooo much.
the abyssmal drop rate and steadily decreasing playerbase to grind these vv wont frighten us to hoard 1000+ same copies of vv. chill.
Startup and Critical Shot are both class skills of subclasses while guardian saint is a base class skill. Every cleric will have the ability to pick up these attributes, while the aforementioned subclasses are locked to specific weapontypes. They are also crit damage only, which is a factor in overall effectiveness.
I would be worried that if the damage buff was too strong, that IMC would consider that to be Clerics baseline damage output for balancing concerns and shut down off-healing in its entirety unless you donât wanna DPS. I would change the heal reduction to something less severe, but still a noticable price to pay like 50% healing.
I guess IMC gutting heals for DPSes could be a good plan to justify bringing them in line with other class trees in terms of DPS and that could justify a bigger damage increase with severe heal loss, but as we have witnessed with these new changes, i donât have a lot of faith in their DPS cleric balancing to bring cleric up to speed with other trees while sacrificing their healing abilities.
On the topic of exorcist. The new skill seems kinda boring. Its basically a targeted condemn with a longer cooldown, and i donât like the complete synergy train we have between Benedicta, Katadikazo and Grand Cross. I want to be able to cast my skills on my own terms, rather than in this doppel-tier combo. Admittedly, anything is an improvement over Koinonia, since it never got used.
compare it with concentration and swift step, that skill is have weakest effect for basic class buff , because now boss have high acc and crit resist
This is one of the reasons I stopped playing FF14, being forced into lengthy skill combos to achieve the best possible DPS results. It was so monotone and mind-numbingly boring. Thereâs a happy medium with having hidden skill interactions between class skills, but doing the exact same rotation over and over again kills the excitement of combat.
Itâs probably one of the worst design choices in MMORPGâs and video games in general.
The change in katadikazo is a great nerf thinking about his vv the one I made in lvl 2, I already hit the cap without the damage buff with the big spear and itâs sad that vv just hit it once and with these changes it will stay even worse.
I think the aqua kata and rubric combo is even better at comparing damage.
swift step is weak??? SWIFT STEP IS WEAK??
LMAO
swift step makes your skills ridiculously spammable when their animation are already simple and fast, not to mention stacking DEX also decrease casting time/animation speed, stacking SPR does? NO
you are not being gracious here boi
ever wondered why there are videos of archer doin less than 2 minute of tel harsha stg 7 because they can spam skill fast, is there cleric builds can do this fast? no cause they are slow, animations slow and dotsy
have you ever play matk cleric with clunky sluggish animation like holy smash at the very worst, that thankfully some of them, and only some of them, are improved in that latest patch? lol
also ever wondered why those sorc really love teaming up with archer because they freaking increase their skeleton archer aspd with swiftstep which already can deal ridiculous dmg to hit even faster
and dude, because boss have high crit resist having concentration at base will keep more yellow up
ever playing another tree that lacking crit booster that doesnt always do 100% yellow especially with boss that high crit resist??
currently, with exo-crus-miko you can only rely on omikuji crit rate quick steroid which is RNG buff that last for only 20~22 second and 80~50sec downtime, but then you would probably prefer having the patk/matk steroid anyway, the next you can rely is hamaya crit resist reduce which last for 10 sec and 10~6 sec downtime, the next one is⌠none.
you gotta pick druid to get some crit steroid but you end up become slow dotsy dps playstyle like how you pick wugushi which no one would prefer cause most archer prefer spam skill fast with swift step and DEX boost and spams yellow easily with 16%~20% crit rate boost!.
nah, they are still cucked
you think that 10% final dmg will do the justice?lol
you know how low matk cleric deals to giltine if they didnt nerf giltine magic def and crit resist? even when matk cleric deals bonus against devil?lol
ever wondered why my matk cleric main friends end up makin wiz or even patk type to tackle boss or even more pt content?
*thOnking
In theory this makes crit buffs even better though? Evasion also isnât terribleâreally depends on the boss.
Weird, long-winded way of saying âaiming.â Not sure if the aspd thing is true, and Iâd think Iâd have noticed by now⌠How are you testing?
I dunno, I think you are forgetting some of the wizard changes/rebalances.
I dunno, wait and see. Donât really know what it looks like til you test things out yourselfâa lot of people misinterpret numbers and what they see in preview videos, especially from people who only have a passing interest in certain classes. Not speaking specifically of Ludo here, just in general.
why dont you ask your companion mr blue bird? he is the all knowing. thats why he love to get you in his pt lul.
i dont give a fk about wizard. im just using wizard as comparison and even without that youtuber statement, wizard in many content are better matk dealer than cleric.also i dont give a fk with their changes, its weeks ago and we are talking about cleric rn
you dont really have to test yourself when those ktest/ktos have the access of playing them early and test things 3+ months earlier than us here. we got what they got and our meta are their meta, if cleric be good like how mergen suddenly be good after its latest patch we wouldve seen increase of its vv price or any other sh*ts the build needs like gem will increase in price. things are forecasted. we would also see more videos of cleric doing 2 min tel harsha or any other contents better or at least equal with another build. dont play dumb with your i dunnos.
DEX plays in role for 2 things.
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Skill Animations
For Skills that have [Attack Speed] tag in their description will benefit their animation time based on the attack speed you have. -
Basic Attack Hit Delay
For every classâs basic attack, hit stop is induced to somehow introduce delays between normal attacks. During somewhere between EP11 and EP12 patch, It is made that DEX will decrease this hit stop time, allowing you to basic attack faster. However, Limacon does not have hit stop to begin with so it literally doesnât matter where it matters the most. Future Binato does benefit from this.