its actually less then 67 blessed gems because of the event that reduces costs by 50% for every even trans/enhance
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Its been some time since ToS 2.0 went to kTest. So painful to watch Monk gameplay videos on Re:Build.
Palm Strike + Hand Knife is such a hard CC players only use Palm Strike and gimp damage.
Energy Blast makes monsters fly away so far they end up not using it.
One-Inch Punch is so weak no one bothers to even use it.
God Finger Flick ā¦ is God Finger Flick, nothing changed much on its usage. Wouldāve been better if its debuff can spread like Appraiserās Blindside.
Double Punch is so weak you wonder why you even take a single point in it other than reskinning auto-attack (at least make it change Monks into a bare-handed stance). Nak Muay AA and Demi-Wolf AA > Double Punch. Heck, you do faster auto-attacks with dagger sub-weapon spam WITHOUT Double Punch attack speed buff compared to using maxed Double Punch. Just something to think about.
Golden Bell Shield most of the time is spent using Palm Strike + Hand Knife, then wait 1-2 seconds for mobs to fly up and down, and repeat, only to have enough time to use Palm Strike + Hand Knife on mobs. Energy Blast cannot benefit from the full duration (at most 5 seconds, and repositioning usually takes 1-3 seconds). Moot skill other than on bosses.
Iron Skin does so little even with maxed out points you wonder why IMC donāt just make it a 1 pointer skill. At least give it a blue aura that persists so it can be a fashion skill, much better than the useless skill it is now. Also, Stone Skin > Iron Skin memes.
As I feared since ToS 2.0 just came out, Monk and Monkās skill set is still just flawed, and on top of that, lacks significant damage compared to other DPS classes in the Cleric Tree. All I see on Monk gameplay as of now, is simply spam Inquisitor/Zealot/Chaplain/Paladin skills off cooldown, and using Smite + Palm Strike + Double Punch as filler due to the hard CC or other skills being that weak. Nothing much has changed since Monk got reworked in ToS 2.0 aside from less-than-decent damage buffs. All of Monkās core damage skills are locked behind hard CC skills that are weaker than other classes, and also lack any utility of any sorts while other classes have better damage and better utility skills. In almost any circumstances, there is no reason to pick Monk over other classes as in any case where Monk is considered, there are easily other options that can do better than Monks.
In the end, Monks are better off before with Double Punching spamming without the stupid 0.05 seconds unnoticeable Hit Delay.The state of things are still the same, where R8 classes are better than R2 classes (heck, Exorcist-Inquisitor-Zealot is strong), and Monks overall (looking at the pros and cons, the big picture kinda thing) got nerfed yet again. As useless as Monkās other skills were, at least Double Punch was strong enough to carry the class like how Rubric is for Exorcist, but the returns from sacrificing Double Punch is just far too much.
So much for ābalanceā (Yes, its another Monk rant from a Monk main)
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On the bright side, there will be more (?) voices airing out this sentiment with ktosters (maybe?).
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Monk desires aside, now would seem to be the time to ask āare melee scouts basically just displaced swordsmen due to them not relying AT ALL on aspd?ā. The pistol scouts have a clear AA build, but melee scouts still rely on skill cycling (aka piano play) making them no different than a swordsman.
Watching ktest rebuild videos with monks in them is honestly depressing.
Sometimes it feels like monk is some kind of imc inside joke answer to the usefulness of monks in ragnarok.
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IMHO IMC just doesnāt know how to differentiate monk from every other melee dps. Other than flavor or personal taste, why go monk? It fills no specific combat role (just your generic hit button = damage) nor does it do anything different from a swordsman (use weapon to smash).
Theyāve had the opportunity to apply toy hammer mechanics to skills but they didnāt. Theyāve had the opportunity to try auto casts (like falconer) but they didnāt.
If the dps is gonna stay low how about giving monks more healing then? How do you feel about a small mass heal-splosion on skill use? I dunno. Something other than dps because IMC clearly doesnāt want monk to have good dps.
To be honest there are so many ways to do it, be it combo-ing, toy hammer mechanic, a new skill, or at least some sort of class-defining mechanic. Golden Bell Shield just feels far too subpar to be even considered a āmechanicā, and the skills Monk has at the moment is just too crap in comparison to other DPS classes in the cleric tree, much less to make use of for Golden Bell Shield.
In my personal opinion, IMC didnāt do much simply because they have no idea how to too, and that other classes have ideas that conflict with anything that may go to Monk in future. Monk got the short end of the stick from that. Double Punch is an auto-attack now, and can be counted for Chaplain Visible Talent, thus taking that into account in balancing. Cooldown reduction idea taken by Inquisitor. Skill spamming? Nak Muay. Even then, those classes can utilize skills from other classes into their own skills to make themselves stronger (God Finger Flick on Breaking Wheel, Double Punch to Visible Talent etc), but Monkās own buff does not affect other class skills (Golden Bell Shield only buffs Monk skills). Most of Monkās debuffs are gone (Bleed, Armor Break, Double Punch Strike Debuff), along with a lot of things taken from Monk (Golden Bell Shield barrier thing looks cool, why remove it), but nothing to replace it with to keep Monkās uh, UNIQUE AND PERSONALITY (if it had any aside from Double Punch spam which is now crap). Heck, at least give Double Punch a proper stance like Nak Muayās bare-handed stance. The whole thing with changes to Monk and ToS 2.0 just feels like removing content, nerfing things and reusing old assets, and Monk got the worst of it. For example, any Monk who sees how Foretell works in ToS 2.0 can tell its just CBT Golden Bell Shield with lower cooldown.
Its a very screwed up triple whammy when you main a Krivis-Monk-Zealot and all 3 classes get re-balanced to be much worse than before (even with Blind Faith memes), much less other classes. Even more depressing that all 3 classes are supposed to be considered Red DPS classes in its current state.
Itās pretty clear that Re:Buildās class balancing hasnāt been fully completed yet.
Thereās been a total overhaul on Chronomancer and Oracle right after the release on kToS, and of course some incosistencies between classes still remain (i.e. dragoon helmet being nerfed but murmilloās helmet not).
IMC might have rushed the release date with many balancing still pending because they need to be bringing in more new players before the end of the year (at least in kToS).
wellā¦
monk always gets the short end of the stick.
Zealot looks like a selfbuff cls now.
They could do something like the combo monk in ro.
At least i can feel like thor with inq/zealot now xD
Guess I found my mainās buildā¦
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Edit: finally the hotkeys are working for me
Cleric - Paladin - Oracle - Kabbalist support build.
Mid gear investment, with +11 T6 weapons and +6 T2 armor. 8k~ish patk and matk.
Itās a support build so there isnāt much attack skills. Mainly Conviction, Smite, Demolition, Nachash. Damage is boosted by Gevurah and Death Sentence making it not a really bad for a support build. (If want more damage, go Zealot/Inquisitor/Rubric is better)
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Please give kabbalist back their quick calculation for Gematria and Notarikon. Calculation serves no purpose besides to prolong the time. And with it only affecting Gevurah and the ā99% of the time-not-usedā cloneā¦ it becomes a waste of 2 points compared to the other 1 pointers in other classes.
At least make the 2 calculation spells do something additional to calculating numbers, like make them affect the potency of other kabbalist spells besides the above 2 mentioned.
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Yeah but if you transcend the Shield after the re:build patch (to benefit from this 50% discount event) you wonāt be able to exchange it for a weapon annymore.
Can someone help me out which classes / skills need dagger offhand as weapon for skaling ?
this assasin farmbuild confused e with the shield ? was he using dagger in offhand and used autoswitch or does assasin not need dagger at all ?
All Assassin skills scale with Dagger.
In the entire scout tree thereās only 2 skills that uses main weapon damage: Hexen Dropper e Double Gun Assault, from Corsair. Any other skills scales with sub-weapon (Pistol or Dagger).
With the autoswitch you can wield a shield and switch to the sub-weapon when using dps skills.
anyone tested if is possible to change a velcoffer shield for weapon?
it is.
has to be +5 trans 5 before hand tho
Where did you see this restriction?
I canāt find this here: http://tos.nexon.com/news/events/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=174
Or even here: https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1542
Iām trying to find something that confirms this.