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kTOS General Thread v2.0

Nope, it’s only ever been buffed

It’s just a loose statement based in that before you could use Conviction (And even stack it with Resist Elements’ debuff I think) to apply a healty increase in damage to elemental damage ticks such as Arde Dager and various other sources of it, now that said numbers cannot become negative with these methods said increase won’t be as noticeable.
Not that it was really noticeable to begin with, but it did very much exist as far as I can remember.

MAYBE they start having enemies with high resists so these skills become relevant again.

Basically, but they probably fear that Wizards will begin to complain about the fact that certain sources of damage are descouraged in certain areas.
I can only imagine what would happen if an area with mobs that gave a good drop had said mobs have a high enough Ice defence.

Ok I give up.

Wizard now victimize themselves as having the weakest AoE in game. ET is now full of swordmen and archers.

I sure play long enough to see TOS evolved to the next stage

The mobs element is already a good defense

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If they don’t nerf Plague Vapours+Pandemic, i think it’s a strong counter against necro’s annoying skeleton army in TBL, because those guys can have like 14k+ hp in R8 and already hurts alot currently, they don’t even get removed from the field (same with shoggoth) even if the player who owns it dies unlike summons from sorcerers. I do hope they change necromancer’s mechanics. If they die their summons should die too along with them.

How exactly did conviction get buffed?

I tried looking in some patch notes but couldn’t find anything regarding conviction.

Both Conviction and Smite got general strenght and hitbox/AoE buffs along the way pre-IToS release, not to mention the Conviction Debuff->Smite interaction.

Never stopped them to keep Mage Tower and the 145dung mainly fire element within Pyro’s C2 and C3 range.

But it is Pyro. We still have Flare.
¯_(ツ)_/¯

Technically got a nerf once. It used to have a nice scalling with SPR waaaay back then during tests.

Oh wow, but you’re talking about months old patch notes.

I was asking if conviction got changed in any ways in kToS after rank 8 release since it has been mentioned that zalciai can no longer make crit resistance negative. If conviction can’t make elemental resist negative either, we can consider that a serious nerf to conviction.

haha remind me of the lv115 dg when me and my friend 1st get in, was wondering why the mob just won’t die :sweat_smile:

It hasn’t had any mentioned changes/alterations since R8 release.

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AFAIK, sage’s usefulness is not that all wonder.

Since duplication is only apply to object type (say goodbye Frost Cloud).
3 Skill that get duplication hard nerf (Pear of Anguish, Ice wall, Catalops).
Not compatible with Necro summon, Ice pillar.

Only valuable self sustain sage would be one with either Sorc, Pyro.

Magic circle enlarge only 10%, pretty much insignificant IMO. 10% larger heal plate might save your day i dont know.

Because doing 50% less damage scares you ?
I’m way more bothered by the fact that i HEAL the god damn Ellet at Demon Prison 2 >_>

Mate, I don’t want to be rude, but wizards have their prime time for so long, any improvement would just push them further from the rest.

I’m not sure why people are crying about swordies OP when in reality swordies still die in both PvE and PvP just like before

You don’t need to be wonder with wizards in R8, you just need any little improvements and wizards are still #1 tree in the game. That’s what I meant by the best.

Or maybe those wizards players expect 1 shot 1 kill in R8 like current as well?

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The conversation for that video started and ended already over here: Reality of ToS for PVE Swordsman in general (rank 8) please stop trolling the kToS thread.

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Not going to happen.
Swordsman is even in a good spot with rank 8, but people are making theories about “how weak will it eventually be”.
There must exist some kind of activist group that fight for swordsmen rights in this game, they are as annoying as the real life ones.

Obviously, with the kind of treatment swordman receive in rank 1-7, it’s hard to believe that rank 8 will save the tree

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but only dragoon tree… oh yes and fencer

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Yeah you both have a choice, what can I pick for scout 3 for rank 8 Archer, crap mergen? Hakka-nosynergy-palle?

Guess i’ll become some Archer activist.

Or leave the kToS thread to discuss kToS changes, because there is arealdy a part of this forum made for classes to debate.

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