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Reality of ToS for PVE Swordsman in general (rank 8)

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

So what do most people think of when swordsman is mentioned in this game?
Tank and aggro.

To be frank, the swordsman dps is just horrible with all the buffs giving some kind of debuff, for example gung ho or deeds of valor.

In rank 8’s new content in ktos, the mobs have insane hp and high magic attack that makes it near impossible to solo the quests and content.
We all know that even in ET, which is like the only end game content this game has in terms of PVE, swordsman simply is not viable in most case. ( except for tank)

So does this mean its strenght tanking is fortified in rank 8? No.

sure you can make arguement that he is not a full con tanker, but does it matter when you have double that hp? No, he will simply die after few more hits.
Its only possible to properly tank with a sage missile hole skill…

ps. only okay build looks like fencer 3 and dragoon 2 variations. Even then, its lower dps compared to mage or archer and has much more down side due to being melee.

I just want IMC to really think of what this class lacks and improve upon it.

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#2

And also, why is it that wizard at rank 3 gets quick cast attribute 50% damage boost to all magic attack 100 % up time at lvl 5, and swordsman has none of that…

#3

Swordsman is already buffed in general and you all still complain. If you cant get agro with the powerful rank 6 tier 3, rank 7 tier 2, and rank 8 tier 1 skills then you are the problem not the swordsman class in general.

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#4

did i say aggro was the problem? if swordsman gets aggro at that rank 8 content shown on the video, they die after few hits.

#5

i think the issues is that swordsmen arent buffed, it just there are alot of of negative effects to their self buff skills while other classes dont.

losing crit

losing evasion

losing defense

losing hp

etc.

just to get a some boost in damage or defense, its detrimental.

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#6

yea exactly…haaa…

#7

do they expect mages to do the tanking for magic enemies.?.

#8

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im quite confused (based on the video). a wiz can manage to lure so many mobs compared to a swordsman who almost died luring few mobs alone.

NOW… where is the so called buffs for swordsman? damage? oh please. even a wiz can manage that.

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#9

yea really sad state of swordsmans …

#10

unless those negative effects are really warranted assuming rank9 and rank10 swordie classes are really gamebreaking.

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#11

Wow wait… You mean, the swordsman, the more tank-oriented class and 99% melee, deals less damage, is less resistent, and lures less mobs than a dps class? And it’s the only class I’m willing to play… Great.

At this point, why wouldn’t they delete the swordsman class for something like, dunno, a “thief” path…

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#12

Only class I enjoy playing is also swordsman. I got a 280 pelt 3 rode 3
hop 3 dragoon, and cataphract. But after seeing these videos and hearing korean tos players talk about swordsman, some kind of change needs to be done. Its just really bad experience compared to other classes.

#13

Well no matter. The forums just consists of swordsman complaints anyway. Nothing new.

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#14

let´s wait for a magic swordman class, so our damage will no longer get deducted by armor type

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#15

Seems like this argument is based on swordsmen solo. But I’m more interested in balance for team. Are you a kToS player and have you played the strong swordsmen builds in a party?

#16

The issue is that in a party where only 5 member can join, a swordsman’s job is usually to tank or at least swashbuckle to get initial aggro.

If a swordsman wants to dps, there are many factors like being melee, buffs having drawbacks, and wizzard dps being simply better (cannot miss, monster armour doesnt matter, ranged, cc)

Only thing swordy provides is 30% exp boost and being able to taunt initially with swash buckling ( which we get at rank 2, 3 ,4 with peltasta)
And with sage being able to just mitigate magic attack, support cc mage with sage is best tank, which is really sad…

At high lvl content, like ET and new content, its just not possible for swordsman to be viable.
(shown in the video)

#17

That’s outdoors solo…

#18

if you play swordsman in iTOS there really isn’t much difference in kTOS until they give swordsman a buff that has % scaling, just like what they did on guardian.

tbh im wondering why as of this moment are they not changing the flat scaling of gungho (guardian’s counterpart) to % scaling which gives me the idea that they really want to keep the swordsman class trashed / exp bonus fillers in parties.

oh and dont believe the rumors about dragoon and fencer rofl they just got nerfed a while ago., they were considered overpowered from the early release mainly because people from kTOS are still figuring out how to bring out other classes’s new ranks to its full potential.

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#19

Yeah, like wizzard gets 50% damage boost, and archers get 25% crit rate but swordsman doesn’t have % buff increase skill at low rank…

Oh… I’ve heard of the nerf… really sad… like why…

#20

I still haven’t got that far but I will let you know…

meanwhile #class-and-rank:swordsman