I’m not rogue R7, I didn’t pick my R7 yet, waiting for mergen and hakkapalle updates. But oh, complaining on kToS General Thread won’t change anything.
i think IMC need to buff swordsman again for R8 content, the new dungeon with high HP mob/boss can’t handle it in solo
Haha. Sorry, i just thought that might be what you picked because you stated that your archer doesn’t have synergy with both.
Yeah, I am waiting too because they are both not really good for my character. I don’t know where to put my Rouge 3 and Scout 3 as i don’t want Musk (i don’t have falconer to warrant getting Cannoneer too). My fencer is good though.
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Playable what.
In comparison to Frost Cloud?
My Sorc can aoe just fine tyvm especially after CD reductions to my Temple Shooters S, D and F.
This falconeer stuff holds me back as well >.> But I was thinking in a combo: Cannoneer Cannon Blast Attribute, that breaks enemies armor, might combo with mergen aoe… Dunno, i’m still thinking.
this is JTOS stuff, their intro video is a sequence of story lol, quite fun to watch
That’s your problem… This is MMO, not everything should be solo-able… If anything, the problem is because most players only want Peltasta for party play. I’ve been in party without Pelt and Shinobi’s clone somehow helping to clear monsters when major Swordie players underestimate it then call it weak…
Damn, i am currently occupied in completing my monster kill count. Saw the post, watched the vid and finished it all.
Dragoooooon 
Don’t tell me Cannoneer is next? 
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Because doing 50% less damage scares you ? I’m way more bothered by the fact that i HEAL the god damn Ellet at Demon Prison 2 >_>
[/quote]A monster from 145 dung heals with fire damage (named Flamme i think). 
I hope Miko becomes available this week…
Need more precise info about skills damage, CD, scaling and stuff to plan a build!!!
can someone tell me why swordies are still complaining. sone of u swordies are so toxic. arent you guys number one dps in rank 8? and still asing fof r buffs? if u want to see a real neglected class roll a rouge/sadhu/paladin ad see how ur class is the most buffed class since ea. this maes me think that maybe swrdies werent een underpowered, bcuz u guys are so buff hungry
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Honestly R8 Archer shouldn’t be worried at all, R7 began exactly the same along with weapon restrictions and limitations, but now look how they are nowadays, specially Musketeer.
Like for real just give it a few weeks.
Bruh im not even swordie, but swordie got nerfed the second it got strong. Can you tell me what swordie is good at ?
ET not even close to viable,
World Bossing ? Not anymore.
Pvp ? dont make me laugh.
They deserve complaining.
Another thing, In all swordie tree for a moment ONLY dragoon and fencer got strong than nerfed. Non of the swordsman is viable rightnow. You can just go 5 cleric and clear ET easily.
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yeah its xalled balancng, theres no ovrpowered class in ktos anymore. if any class needs a buff right now its archer, and they dont even need it
I literally went how the balances to Fencer and Dragoon are either a non-issue or easily fixed a few psots ago, geez.
It hurts how cancer all this swordsman talk is. 
ik, sone of them dont complaining, you dont see monks complaining like this, monk are more useless than swordsmen
Monk just became viable because of Inquisitor.
that doesnt make monk viable, for inquisitor you still have a bunch of more builds. i guess that means rodelero became viable bcause of murmillo. monk is a good class imo, but everyone else seems to think otherwise. swordsman is a good class imo, everyone else (mainly swordsmen atm) seem to think otherwise
Rodelero was already viable.
Pretty sure that’s wrong.
Hop 3 doppel dragoon 2 WAS the best WB DPS, but now its DPS nerfed by 50%.
Fencer 3 is the next in line for WB DPS, nerfed too
Fletcher is the next in line (wasn’t changed for a year), wasn’t nerfed
We don’t know the current ranking, but most likely it would be fencer competing with fletcher
At least no swordmen would tell you rogue/paladin/sadhu are fine, like how wizard and cleric keep telling swordmen is fine <— that’s the real source of complaints
And people (or maybe just me) won’t stop until swordman get a stable spot in PvP and ET. Even with R8 buffs those are still issues to swordman.
If you can prove otherwise, then I’m all ear
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