On my mind, my fear was ‘‘i dont have a goodly dmg like wizz or archer, so if the was nerfed, what i gonna do?’’ D:
re-roll, like everyone else does.
according to the news today…
Class reset is not going to be a thing, but they’re considering a way to let you cancel currently-in-progress class change quests, in case you change your mind.
It’s not like you’re building your character around blessing. There’s a bunch of us priests with low level blesses and you know what we do when someone has a stronger bless? You let them do their stronger bless.
Or skill reset? Haha. I actually did one following your advice and totally dropped stone skin in an INT build.
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No, but it was something that even physical-based builds could do with the same effectiveness…and now they can’t. Comparatively speaking, it’s quite a big nerf for these builds. As a priest 3/monk, i could as well drop most of my points of blessing now, since i’m not supposed to get much out of it either way (and i probably shall do so, if i don’t reroll another monk instead).
That’s what I’m confused about here. Is it because you can’t use blessing to it’s full potntial that you see it as a nerf? Because bless itself doesn’t get weaker. You still get the +170 for maxing it. But otherwise sure, I can see that if you feel that it won’t be up to snuff you could take points off and put it somewhere else. That’s what the bless 3 builds have always done anyways.
As to what @Don_Falce said…
I know Blessing isn’t nerfed for Monks but it used to be an even field. Now became pointless for Monks to even consider adding points into blessing. My blessing is currently at 5 and I after this change, I might as well remove it from my build. Even blessing 3 is pointless now. By removing it, I save myself the trouble of having to restock on holy powder for sub-optimal blessing which I have to recast every 45/60s and extra hotkey slots for other skills.
If this come to itos, they better give us skill resets. Yeah I wish I can get class reset but we know it ain’t happening. I’m not gonna spend 300+hours to reroll into a Diev-Monk now… Ain’t no one got time for that. This is the type of changes that drives players to quit the game when they get disheartened by their choices and just can’t be bothered to reroll and start all over.
Hrm. I see. I was under the impression most monks liked having it from all the that have been floating around.
I -was- pretty much on the same boat for all my other priest build characters, though since none of them are monks minus the c2p2monk, they do benefit from this.
Sucks I gotta throw money at them for a skill reset.
Why do you even bother to add blessing currently if you think that way? After the change, your level 3-5 bless get 15 secs longer, and probably a couple of points stronger.
It’s not like people expect your monk to be a blessing slave now or even after the change. Your personal solo play stays the same as well.
I just don’t understand why people threaten to quit once their char isn’t min-max to the best any more.
It still makes monks comparatively less useful in party settings. Given how little blessing levels actually contribute to the damage, and how monks won’t be able to effectively raise spr/int, even if they go priest 3 and max blessing they will still easily lose out to priests 2 with lvl 10 blessing or even people with priest 1 and level 5 blessing (albeit, those may be inconvenienced by the reduced number of hits).
Let’s make numbers do the talk. A monk likely won’t raise a point of either spirit or intelligence, so at base values, he’ll have 8 spirit and 4 int. At blessing 15, it gives an additional, amazing 7.84 damage. Let’s say, 8 damage. A total of 178 damage added, considering the attributes too.
A priest 2, with blessing 10, will need at least 28 additional damage to be on par. It means that the first part of the formula must be around 3.12 (28/9 can be approximated to that value). If we only consider the contribution to spirit, you need just 51 spirit. At 51 spirit, a priest 2 blessing is already better than a priest 3/monk’s one.
But let’s say we got priest 1 instead, for whatever reason, and blessing at 5. At base value, you need 47 additional damage to get on par. Thus 47/4=11.75 in the first part of the formula. Again, taking int at base value, we’re talking about 195 points on spirit. That’s high, indeed, but still something that a spr-focused build shall take, as their other skills do depend on those stats after all. A monk would have to spend points on str, dex and con already. Even if he raised spr, it wouldn’t be able to get good values on it either way.
I don’t see why, as a priest 3/monk, i should even bother taking blessing now. I will be easily surpassed by people that didn’t even max priest to begin with, let alone the ones that did.
You guys do realize that Blessing received a buff right?
The INT/SPR scaling is a bonus on top of the old formula
(The image credits goes to Doddler, I tried to link his post but I have no idea how…)
OMG. That warped logic.
I don`t take bless coz spr-priest simply exist.
Do you really want ignore partybuff because some virtual guy can buff better?
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is this mean that monks with priest c3 build will not have damage from blessing?
can anyone clarify?
Another one…
Additional bonus damage Calculation is:
( 0,06 * Spr + 0.02 * Int ) * ( Skill Lv -1 )
I really start think that monks can`t read 1st post.
didn’t noticed the “additional” part, so yea noob here
Warped logic? It’s simple math. Priest 3/Monks have no reason to max blessing now, that’s a fact. Take a few points and be done with it, you cannot compete anyway, even if you bothered maxing it. You’ll miss some tens of damage compared to the maxed skill…but what’s the point, since you’re already missing out on several hundred of damage by just being a monk?
As detailed above, even people with a single rank of priest can dish out better blessings, damage wise. Let alone priests 2 or 3, you can’t even be compared with those. So, why spend all those points to begin with? Just put a few points,take something else and hope it doesn’t end up scaling with spr/int as well.
With your reasoning all priests can ignore blessing because it gives only 170dmg in curent patch. But i dont see blessingless priests.
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I don’t say you can’t use it in some builds if you want but you still can’t use its full potential if you don’t have INT or SPR.
Some magic skills could deal some damage even if you don’t have an INT build… still most ppl wouldn’t rly choose them then.
Zalciai is also a great example. For a DEX build you could get lvl 3 and get that 100+ crit attack buff…still I don’t think anyone took Krivis for this. (also aukuras would help that DEX build btw X) )
Also again… you can buy a much better Blessing now from Pardoners if you are a Monk… so in solo play you would do that wouldn’t you? and in party play if you end up with an SPR Priest party member… was it worth it to get it?
You have to decide yourself but it is true that for Monks or other non INT/SPR builds Blessing lost a lot of potential.
It rly won’t be great if IMC will start to make skills scale with stats… a lot of versatile classes will be less versatile.
That’s still 170 damage you can have on top of the normal one. But you can’t stack multiple blessings. Only the best one matter…and monks can’t have it.
Spending 15 points for something you won’t really have an use would be extremely stupid. Just put a few points and be done with it, for when you’re alone or without a proper support priest. You may have taken 3 ranks, but you aren’t good enough as a support, anyway.
Ok. You can buff 123dmg if you want. But not ignore blessing completely.