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#1181

Quite to the contrary, monk2-3 are mostly counterproductive for Zealot2.
But at the same time Fanaticism and beady eyes are ideal for improving a monk3 build.

Anyhow:

  • There’s the sp issue, Fanatic Illusion is already very costly but double punch’s 50 sp per use can add a lot to it. Diev2-3 can counteract the dp drain a bit though.
  • Dex benefits double punch, but has 0 benefits for any of the zealot skills.
  • Both Dex Double Punch and Spr Blind Faith have the same niche, aka that of high single target dmg. But spr simply has more benefits and more optional ranks to shine. But not sure which deals more dmg yet.

Though energy blast is nice regardless.

#1182

I was wondering if a swelled mob can drop 2 equipment instead of 1 for the new gear that drops in rank 8++ maps. I saw in the vid that the guy swelled a target and it only dropped 1 piece of equipment so i was wondering if its a bug or intentional. Seems like intentional.

#1183

Thank you for answering me :grin:

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#1184

How this guy got 660k per dg300 run? Isn’t it 220k only?
@edit: just realised he may used 2 multiply tokens, don’t know how those items work after dg rework

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#1185

love seeing those ktos videos of people clearing 290(300) dungeon and pulling an entire room at once. Can’t do that on itos. You can pull like 8 at the most. This is nothing new, but sure is frustrating. i wonder if it is done intentionally in an attempt to lessen the strain on our potato.net. In any case thanks for all the r9 infos and keep it coming.

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#1186

Thanks for informative post
So poor man farmer build will be like this now ? :slight_smile:
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skill-planner#21277aaaii.152535.153575.253a4a55.1f223a42516a75.55657a95a

Ignore skill points left at Enchanter some weird bug in sim ;3

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#1187

wouldn’t cryo 1 be more effective than pyro 1?

#1188

Not really, for AA build extra line and property dmg and magic attack from Enchant Fire (and if you use staff than lil more fire property atribute) will help more than random 5 tile ice wall)

Enchant Fire will add you 180 Fire Dmg, Extra Line and what matters the most +10% Minimal Magic Attack added at top of your magic attack as extra dmg (pretty much adds 10% of your min attack as non property dmg extra if I understand skill description right)

#1189

Was it nerfed? I thought it was 990,000 or was that only for the test server?

You have to play smart. Generally, stuff that aggros monsters lures in 8.
What that Druid did was aggro monsters on him, on his battle bird, and more on the Aukuras.

Alternatively, Sorcerer’s Riding has infinite aggro.

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#1190

That’s right in theory, however, the bonus is actually much higher, 0,5% per point in CON to be exact.

E.g. : My Pardoner got 40 CON.

A lvl 15 Condensed HP Potion recovers 2765 HP initially, so if it was only 0,1% per CON, the bonus recovery would be 0,1 * 40 =4% => 2765 * 1,04= 2875 HP
However, drinking the potion recovers 3318 HP, which is 3318/2765=1,2
so the bonus is 20% for 40 CON, which translates to 0,5% per point in CON.

Example 2:
My Enchanter got 325 CON. He recovers 7258 HP initially with said lvl 15 Condensed HP Potion, which translates to 7258/2765=262,5% , which is 162,5% additional recovery. 162,5 * 2 = 325, exactly my CON.

So Aukuras has its value increased by 0,5% per point in CON.

Edit: forget it, I retested it and it doesn’t <_<

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#1191

I’ve tried all the tricks. Never been able to aggro entire rooms as i’ve seen in ktos videos.

#1192

Thank you so much but i have more questions now sorry,

  1. if i choose thauma 3 i have to put some dex too?
  2. What give more damage linker bonus or thauma buff?
  3. i have to choose thau3?
  4. There is any build with enchanter and elementalist?
  5. How i can hit bosses with enchanter? because im more solo player and i want to solo somethings for make money and pretty nice weapons and armor, and maybe hit bosses like the challenge ones XD (maybe is a crazy and stupid idea but i don’y play since january)
#1193

Dex also gives crit attack and block penetration, Immolation and Fanatic Illusion are physical attacks and can crit but i’m not sure if they can be blocked. You won’t be punching a whole horde to death on challenge mode and your sp will be better spent on Fanatic Illusion in this case so i think Druid2 has more to offer than Monk3.

Maybe i should go full Str instead if all i want from it is the two-handed blunt weapon… It may be very interesting with Palm Strike and the Prison Cutter + Rajapearl card combo.

#1194

Hi, can anyone suggest a cleric build that is viable for ET and rank 9? Thank you!

#1195

No,because viability is basically = everything with Heal in it. Other than Heal/Mass Heal it heavily depends on the parties composition, their equipment,stats and skilllevel.
1 build e.g. is viable for a party full of Archers/Swordsmen, another one is viable for Wizards&other Clerics in the party, 1 build is more viable for burst intensive Classes, 1 build is more viable for DPS, 1 build performs better when the CON is low, 1 build performs better when the CON is higher, 1 build is only viable for skill-based attackers, one is only good for autoattackers, etc.

Cleric is by far the most versatile Classbranch now, but at the same time this makes every single build better at a few things and worse at most others (unlike Wizard where the support Circles benefit most other Classes or Archer/Swordsman where most Classes simply deal damage).

Rank 9 makes it even harder to choose which way to build because you’d like damage and support on every Class in ET [which is better overall than simply having 1 or two partymembers play damage dealers as those builds are mainly without CON investment] and some Classes in the Cleric roster simply don’t fulfill this role good enough to be viable for certain settings, while other settings with a better Class combination makes these builds pretty strong.

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#1196

They nerfed the silver income in every dungeon, with this patch: http://tos.nexon.com/ts/notice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=127

DG300 (old DG290) now gives 220k (full clear) per run, instead of 330k

I may be wrong about the reason, so take it with a grain of salt: think the reason may be the fact that you get the full money amount at the end of the dungeon now, so basically if you’re in a group, you don’t split money with other party members anymore… this is a nerf to solo runners but a huge buff for parties, you can clear the dungeon faster and even make money out of it.
Imagine a good geared DPS can clear the DG290 (now 300) in 5-6 minutes alone, what if a friend with similar gears helps him? You’ll probably clear the dungeon in 2-3 minutes, and both of you gets the full amount of silvers, this would give you a better silver/hour ratio, hence the nerf

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#1197

Multiply dungeon tokens can still be used. You just clear the dungeon once, like usual, and will get more rewards when you kill the boss.

@Kanna

Yes, silver gain was nerfed, and dungeon levels were reworked too.

Dungeon changes & silver nerf

Level 50 Cathedral dungeon: NEW: 8k - 40k silver. (OLD: 12k - 60k silver)
Level 120 Historic site Ruins dungeon: NEW: 18k - 90k silver. (OLD: 27k - 135k silver)
Level 180 Monument of Desire dungeon: NEW: ~27k - ~134k silver. (OLD: 40k - 200k silver)
Level 230 Fallen Legwyn Home dungeon: NEW: ~33k - ~ 167k silver. (OLD: 50k - 250k silver)
Level 280 Underground Catacombs dungeon: NEW: 40k - 200k silver. (OLD: 60k - 300k silver)
Level 300 Castle dungeon: NEW: 44k - 220k silver. (OLD: 66k - 330k silver)

For example, dungeon lvl 50, if you have 0% clear, your silver reward after defeating boss = 8k.
If you clear 100% mobs, your silver reward will be 40k.

@Zvaigzdes_Fedimian Yes, that is a good budget option.
You have all the important skills to solo farm:
-Enchant fire (extra attack line)
-Joint penalty
-Hangman’s Knot (and attributes)
-Swell arms, swell brain
-Swell body!
-Enchant Lightning
-Lightning hands
-Enchant Earth

@ResonantSoul I still drop equips twice during swell body, it is nice to get 2x orange equips and appraise their stats. Sometimes there is a (visual) bug and items won’t show even when they have dropped.

@samtsui86 If you have heal 10 (cleric2), you can go ET (as support)! You should decide on your extra role: dps or more support?
Magic dps examples: Plague doc3, bokor3, sadhu3, …
Physical dps example: builds with zealot2, monk, …
More utility/support: taoist, diev, …

@ReportofAusterity 0,5% per CON is very nice, thanks for testing.

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#1198

(I’m not Nekorin but…) Daino is now a seft-buff, it is given only for the caster.
And when you said “Enchant Lightning” i think you mean “Lightning Hands” right? Enchant Lightning is just a buff like Blessing, Lightning Hands is the buff that turn AA in lightining element but it is too a self-buff.

#1199

I retested everything and it seems that the normal attack value stays untouched and only the lightning property damage from Enchant Lightning is treated as lightning element :frowning: .
If this elemental portion is doubled due to Dainos C3 attribute, it’s still decent, up to 5k additional damage per autoattack(if the Enchanter has around 500 SPR/INT) in the case Enchant Lightnings additional lightning property attack is doubled by Storm Calling.

Seems like Thaumturge/Chronomancer>Enchanter and Krivis>Taoist are now brothers in arms.

#1200

seeing as even each piece of 350 orange armor need 2 practo, we will need at least 10-12 practo per char (4part armorX2 +2practo for 1 weapon)… is there any other new source of practo? beside leticia cube, guild raid and fast leveling lv 317 practo slave?