[kTest[Ktos]] Class rework thread

greyhiem · May 29, 2017, 1:15am

I have seen many formulas.

I remembered it like this.
I could be wrong.

Then it will be this:

pathoth · May 29, 2017, 2:35pm

Drain is not negative. It’s about +4-5% per lvl. But it also changes your normal attack element to dark, which gets -25% vs dark monsters, so…
Its not negative, it’s just too weak to be useful. And its not even buffed by any of warlocks “increase dark dmg” thingies.

lucas.kampi · May 31, 2017, 1:43am

anyone knows how MAX HP is scaled now in each class? thank you…

greyhiem · May 31, 2017, 2:21am

On https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31
You are able to select a class. Select the ’ stat points’ option and have a look at max HP. You are able to change levels, and invested stats.

greyhiem · June 10, 2017, 2:58pm

In KToS the description is minimum of 3% of your magic attack added to Ice property attack per attribute level. However it is strange on your vid.

EternalDream · June 10, 2017, 8:22pm

I’ve noticed that too. Heck, the value can change when swapping the weapon out for something else and then swapping back to it. You know, the exact same weapon. Different ice damage based on how you equipped it. Super weird.

greyhiem · June 12, 2017, 1:54am

After Summon patch tier

Forwarded from ktos
Strong weapon attack + SPR is important
After summon patch, ranking of sorcerer summons, based on their skills.
Please try the summon skills and decide if you like them before you follow the ranking/meta/level cards!

Bossing
Nuale > Temple shooter > Tomblord > Necroventer > Mirthis > Rexi rexi > Helga > …
Some summons deal a lot of multi hit damage when there are less mobs (example Nuale, necroventer), some summons deal more hits on bigger targets (temple shooter, tomb lord). Ease of multihit and ability of extra damage on bosses was used for the ranking.

Dungeon/mobbing
Temple shooter > Rexi rexi > Helga > Nuale > Necroventer > Mirthis > Tomblord > …
Some summons have convenient skills, such as templeshooter normal attack (ranged and pierces enemies with 2 hits), rexi normal attack which covers a large area. Some summons have knockback attacks which will ruin mob grouping (for example tomblord). This criteria was used for the summon ranking.

**Video of mobbing at dung290 with various cards** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsHL2p6YCd4 **Siaulai bosses with sorc summon** Nuale: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q0K6DanXlk Rexi rexi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACMDg0tKjSU Helga: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKJO7QiaT80 Mirthis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_3HVrvf1YY Temple shooter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVZT3rGCDjU Tomb lord: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UM8ajjlpmc Necroventer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejygxSyxhRs

Summon test at HG
Some lower gear test with summons at Hunting ground 330.
Showcasing all skills of each summon.
Note: difference between summons is not big, damage will depend on your weapon & SPR.

xSh4rk3yx · June 12, 2017, 12:37am

lol finally they gave skills to the poor Abomination even tho they are not really impressive.
Are there gonna be new devil cards after the summon buff/rework or still the same?

greyhiem · June 12, 2017, 12:43am

Cards did not change.
No cards added or changed yet.
Maybe later, I think I read something about it.

greyhiem · June 13, 2017, 4:44pm

Rexi rexi is so annoying

greyhiem · June 14, 2017, 6:38pm

a vid of endless farm combo
link feather, diev, oracle kabba2, chrono reincarnate
A new low hp caro always spawns after link-swell-stab

Alyu_aint_short · June 14, 2017, 9:47pm

Wait a second…Does he have over 4k blessing?How?!

Pinata44 · June 14, 2017, 9:51pm

Se vc tiver um grupo com priest full spr, link 3, e sadhu, vc pode dar transmit prana no priest usando a spr dele e multiplicar a blessing.
E da pra vender na lojinha de pardoner isso.

Alyu_aint_short · June 14, 2017, 9:53pm

That’s a dedicated pardoner XD

pedro.altoe · June 21, 2017, 8:13pm

Hi @greyhiem i would be very glad if you could do some brainstorming with me? I will try to get the most input numbers you need here, or at least i think you need.

My great concern here: I am hackapell with a total of 6 gems slots in both main weapon hands (main weapon being Silver hawk 2 gems slots and purine sword with 4 gems slots, which i managed to put it +15). Assuming 315 leather hunting grounds armor, swift step active (i get around 550 critical rate).

My general dps in a skill rotation would be better with all lvl 7 red gems or all lvl 7 green gems?

I believe, please correct me if i am wrong, that after reading this topic the great choice here is whether i can manage to upgrade/transedence the main weapons to a certain threshold where the physical attack is soo high that all green gems would provide a better DPS, otherwise all red gems provide a better dps.

How can i calculate this threshold?

I manage to do some math with the ToS Damage Calculator

The Grand Modifier Thread | Skill damage boosts and 'additional attack' sources explained

In my math, i manage to have the conclusion of (using the damage of a single magic arrow as a test since it has 25 hits):

Main weapon Min/Mas damg = 1800/2500 = All red gems overall damage wins by 50k dmg

Main weapon Min/Mas damg = 3666/4300 = All red overall damage wins by 30k dmg

Main weapon Min/Mas damg = 5000/6500 = All green overall damage wins by 200k dmg

So, there is a limit of a weapon min/mas dmg where all green would win this match.

Am i assuming something wrong here?

All Brainstorming about this is very welcome. Thank you very much!!!

penetrosity · July 16, 2017, 4:44am

Was racking my head over this trying to figure out why my critical attack values were incorrect in a a spreadsheet, turns out they’re just a little off here

The correct numbers are:
All: +4 Critical Attack per skill point
All +10 Critical Attack per 10 skill points

Video:

megamanex14 · October 11, 2017, 10:02pm

Alright guys/gals,

Sorry for nercro’ing this thread, but does does anyone actually know the multiplicative/additive difference for every negative point of resistance u have towards that type of dmg? As well how it works in the formula?

greyhiem · October 11, 2017, 10:37pm

This is how I understood the mechanic.

Example vs enemy.
Player +1 fire bonus damage, vs enemy = final +1 fire bonus damage. (neutral)
Player +1 fire bonus damage, vs enemy 1 fire resist = final +0 bonus damage. (equal)
Player +1 fire bonus damage, vs enemy -10 fire resist = final +11 fire bonus damage. (bonus higher than resist)
Player +0 fire bonus damage, vs enemy -10 fire resist = final +0 bonus damage. (no positive bonus = no effect)

@penetrosity fixed it, thanks

rokaz · October 25, 2017, 4:30am

Bonus C.Atk from Dex was changed:

Dex =
All: +4 Critical Attack per skill point
All: +1 Block Penetration every 2 points
All: +1 Evasion every 2 Points
All: +3.5 Block Pen per 15 points
All: +4 Critical Attack per 5 points <<<<<<<<<< its not there anymore
All: +3.5 Evasion per 15 Points
All +10 Critical Attack per 10 skill points

ijbest · October 25, 2017, 8:51pm

So we get less now or… lol?