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KRtos (class, content) vids & discussion : first post = retiari & onmyouji vids (CLOSED TOPIC BY REQUEST)

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#1592

Yes, 74m silver is laughable right now, you may want to think back before May update, when making rough silvers meant running DG170 with Scout3 dummies endlessly or monopolizing a demon prison/royal constructor’s chapel channel with a Warlock2, and if you couldn’t afford either of those two methods it meant endless grinding for low profit results… back then, having a Rank 6-7 attribute at 100 meant A LOT, now not so much, unless you started playing very recently, because the silver income per day has become higher thanks to R8 map changes and monsters nerfing, it’s just a matter of how much time you want to invest and compared to before it’s WAY easier.

Also, Circling changes have nothing to do with any Mergen/DPS interaction? Really? That’s basically the only reason he needs to stack AAR compared to before.

I can see from the tone of your last replies you are on a personal crusade here now, anything good that could’ve came out from this discussion just went out of the window, so I’m not gonna reply any further just for the sake of playing talk and back.

Good luck with your Falconer3.

#1593

This reminds me of thau 3+some other wiz classes and krivis chapa inqui atm :tired:

mergen c2 skills are the biggest joke I have ever seen :joy: especially jump shot

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#1594

Oh my god, am I expressing myself that badly? Please re-read my post:

While you said this:

So what I meant is that they removed the interaction between Falc1 and Mergen by changing Circling, while leaving the specific interaction between Falc3 and Mergen the same (Aiming and Mergen skills).

Ugh, I didn’t mean to get personal on this or offend you, so I must apologize for getting myself too carried away specially on my previous post, but you kept insisting that I said or implied that “falc is dead” besides your not-so-friendly tone in your TLDR and in the following reply, so that pissed me off. Again, sorry for being rude and for my aggressive tone on my previous post.

Well, I don’t have a Falconer3, but I have an alt character that is Falc1Mergen1 and one of my best friends in this game mains a Falc3.

Oh, and maybe you could share your secrets on a separate topic about how to get 74m raw silver so easily, because I play ToS since iCBT2 and I’m struggling to finish gearing up my alt characters even though my silver income is much, much higher than before May, but not anything close to 74m in a short time.

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#1595

Well yeah, that should be the proper way to do the things but, then again… IMC :tired:

#1596

Does the popularity build list in ktos site still exists? i’m confused about the ranks to get on my SR3 and PD2 :frowning:

#1597

No. It is not working. Rank 9 SR3, pick rogue1/2 or bullet1. PD2 pick PD3.

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#1598

rogue1 is now so much good to have in builds for any build which can afford a filler.

#1599

Nope, PVP has no value because it is simply a feature to entertain people bored from PVE.
Neither does PVP have any place in the lore of the game nor does it add any life to the game system by offering any items otherwise unavailable in the game that have an actual gameplay impact [not in the form of being neccessary but being useful and unique].

Playing PVP in TOS is like going to the river to throw stones into it. It may be fun, but it has neither any value in my life nor do I gain anything from it. I’ll just get gradually better at making the stones skip more often before they sink into the river.

That’s why it has no value in the game itself, it could be e.g. a separate game and noone would miss it because TOS loses nothing by letting PVP go, the lore/quest/leveling/transcendence/farming/dungeons/collections/etc are still the same even without the PVP.

I can bring that right back to your face: “sounds like someone who whaled himself to topgear with PVP-build would say”, which is just an assumption with the sole purpose to ridicule the other side.
It’s simply stupid to try pejorating others comments without bringing any solid arguments to the table.
You stated that PVP adds plenty of value, but you didn’t list any “value” to support your hollow post, which makes it a simple pejorative post of frustration that can’t even support itself.

While you are free to have your own opinion about things, you can’t just go and post such statements if you don’t want to be riduculed for being unable to differentiate between argument and opinion.

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#1600

You can pick Hackapell for SR3 too!
Farm machine

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#1601

Can’t agree more. PVP in this game is a total joke.

Anyone who had pvp experience in other games know that pvp in tos “arena” is like buying a sportscar to ride around in 20 kph around your suburb.

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#1602

Just sucks that TOS require 0 skills to be good in PVP,what counts is how much money you invested in the game.A good ratio of Skill should be one the factor but NOPE! is all about who has no life and who has a lot of money.Really 0 skills is needed to be good in PVP are you need is choose the Meta build and press like 1 or max 2 buttons and its over.

PVP is a joke in TOS GVG or TBL doesn’t matter, so people are trying to tell others or me that it’s not true and those people are just winning and complaining for nothing but who defend TOS “PVP” lol are the ones who are ignorant and blind to the fact.

Does it make since to 1 shot a player that is high geared with over 200k hp?Heck even having over 200k hp is ridiculous LMAO.

Rank 9 WILL BE THE LAST STRAW FOR MANY PLAYERS.Because lets face it after the new fancy new class comes with the grind of new gear and if rank 9 isn’t successful then the future content wouldn’t matter.

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#1603

Good point man,PVP such GVG anf TBL contribute nothing to game progression so it has 0 value.PVP in others games rewards you with things that can benefit you in PVE or PVP which makes it worth doing PVP.Why you think there is so much PVE players in TOS?It’s because we got Saalus/UpHill/ET and others that helps you contribute to your progression either its in PVE OR PVP

PVP in TOS doesn’t help you in PVP! LMAO
At least some MMO has a PVP gear system that pushes PVP players to grind because it gives special stats that only works in PVP instances.

#1604

Dragoon3
Vs boss challenge mode stage 5 here
Another one vs boss here
Vs mobs here

Doppel3 + party challenge mode stage 5->7 here

Sapper3 rogue2 bulletmarker2 solo dungeon 300 here
Bullet marker bloody overdrive hit mechanic is a lot better now.

Sapper2 Fletcher2 Falcon3 at HG here
Falcon3 mergen solo dungeon 300 here and at HG 340 here
Falcon3 Bullet1 at 340 HG here
Reiter3 rogue2 solo saalus here

Cannon3 at PvP TBL (fighting vs clerics) here

Musketeer3 worldboss mirtis (with only 1 extra party member) here

… falconer blitz beat (not sure if intended). Continuously deactivate and reactivate pre-emptive strike Toggle to make bird attack faster. Cooldown on new pre-emptive was removed. Also no SP cost because SP only drains every 5s when pre-emptive is activated.

Runecaster sorcerer dung 300 here
Linker thauma featherfoot farming at HG 340 here
Gorkas sorcerer enchanter2 HG 340 here

Meta AA cleric solo saalus mausoleum here
Paladin doctor zealot2 siaulai here

No new patchnotes yet.
Recent patchnotes by Gwenyth: https://pastebin.com/ACqh67sS

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#1605

That Wizard2>Linker2>Thaum3>FF2 seems pretty self sufficient. FF heals hp and full SPR removes the requirement for SP potions.

How do Cannoneers distribute their skills if they’re not going QS? What about if they do go QS?

#1606

Just know a few cannon3. Most cannoneers max Cannon barrage and take at least lvl 1 smoke grenade. Leftover points free for you to decide.

PvE: includes some older vids without the new shootdown and cannon shot attributes.
Cannon3 at dung300 here
Cannon3 siaulai here
Cannon3 running shot + bazooka siaulai here

PvP cannons all use the same build, should be somewhere on Rangee Po youtube vid.

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#1607

what’s the point of QS3 here if he doesn’t have points invested into dex?

@adrian.agulto.rn @ReportofAusterity

it’s true XD “PvP” here is a joke.

#1609

So QS3 is pretty much meta now for most archer endclass? (BM/mergen/cannon/musket/falcon)
The only classes that i do not see taking qs3 are sr3 and hacka

#1610

I’m gonna take a guess here.

PES actives auto blitz right? Turning PES on activates both the skill and the timer between auto blitz’s. I’m guessing turning the toggle on then off also resets the timer between the blitz.

Still no work on musketeer right?

#1611

Yes this is correct. PES will immediately activate blitz. So turning it on + off repeatedly will spam Blitz.

No info on musket & matador rework patch yet.

@ronzu yes, QS3 is popular with KR ping. Running shot provides a lot of sustained damage and is always up.

@DacreFullbuster I don’t know. Think it was just a demonstration or test.

Plague doc3 with Froster Lord Freezing card dungeon 300
Plague doctor CC ability up with froster card (PD can now fulfill all roles in game).

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#1612

Woah, those zombies at 2:35 aren’t picking tet up.