Tree of Savior Forum

ITOS 40F First clear[Orsha]- January 4, 2017 4:41 AM

General Discussion
#143

You can do the same, speak out against it all you want, but ultimately its just players using mechanics provided to them by the game itself with no outside interference (speaking about AFK necros). Which, regardless of company wouldn’t ever warrant a ban UNLESS they explicity stated it was unintentional for something that is provided by the game to ALL players to be used as such.

I could maybe understand your argument, but each and every person who plays this game has the ability to go out and make an AFK necro, this isn’t something thats reserved for a few special people in the game that the GMs decide to overlook.

Comparing it to botting is laughable.

#144

I know. I could just eat tons of food and become a fat slob that uses the Walmart hover round and they would let me do it. But guess what? I’m not going to do it because of the principle that it’s kinda immorally wrong. You’re sitting there making it unable for low level people to do quests and clogging up the whole map with your unsightly fat rolls all over the place.

You don’t have to do this and could make money other ways which I’m absolutely sure of since Orsha is such a low population someone like you already controls the market there anyways. So now you’re going to also stink up the place with 5 VM boxes of Necros? It’s just so bad man and actually laughable to think you feel this is alright because anyone can do it and that justifies the means.

These people prolly think it’s “alright” too~

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#145

None will come back to this shitty managed game until bots and hacks are dealt with.

LABELKILLZ

Salazar

Salamoo

Small sample of Orsha players botting, why aren’t they banned at all? The Orsha community is so small, i’m sure you will recognize these names.

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#146

I guess by that logic we could also have farmers with larger fields pull all of their crops without the use of machines, or workers because some of the smaller ones can’t afford the help. I’ve run numbers of alts through that map without any of my necros actively running and finished the quests in roughly the same amount of time before any of them were there. I’ve also let a large number of lower level players whom I have 0 association join parties with my necros and leech exp from them, they seemed pretty happy about the situation to me, I’ve even scheduled leeches for them letting players know when I’ll be logging them all on next. Hell most afkers there have no problems letting lowbies into their party…so what damage are we causing?

Personally I don’t mess with the market at all prices fluctuate way too much to actually “control” it like you suggest. Also, like I’ve mentioned before I don’t and never have used any third party software, I’m using 3 desktops and 2 laptops.

#147

Except farmers usually don’t have to share the land they are harvesting within a community. This is you making five accounts to farm five times the amount of someone else within a public spot. Also, in this situation it would be an ethical problem of you using machines instead of paying workers or doing it yourself just because you can since nobody enforces laws. Therein lies the problem you keep skirting around about morality practices on your behalf just to maximize your own gains.

In any other type of real mmo if someone had five accounts running automated or AFK farming some how I’m pretty sure you would be banned or told to stop. Things aren’t like that in Tree of Savior because this is like literally a third world country here and the government is just as corrupt as the citizens. Everyone whose not corrupt has fled the borders already because it’s so bad.

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#148

From hacking to RMTing and now botting. Yep, any group that does this can simply finish ET.

You might as well just make a guide on how to do these things instead of giving people advice on how to complete ET, since it won’t be possible unless they utilise one of the three illegal methods.

hue hue hue, what a false sense of achievement to feel proud of.

Anyways, to summarise their strategy for completing ET, do the following:

  • dual wield credit card and RMT
  • use hacking tools
  • bot

Ta da! If you complete one of the above method, you’ll have a chance in completing ET like these guys.

(feels amazing to help out the community)

Until rank 9

  • E
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#149

Welp agree to disagree, sorry we couldn’t come to some kind of middle ground with this. I still keep my stance there’s nothing wrong with it, and I promise the second any of the IToS staff speaks out against the use of AFK necros you won’t see a single one of them log on to afk again. I will however still be using them for shards :grin:

That being said, if you or anyone else needs a leech in the future, feel free to hit me up for an invite.

#150

I think tos community is split because of different audiences.

In western mmo people voiced loud enough their reasons and why they want legit environment and real ethic management including the forsaken forum.

To put things very simply, in Asian mmo since more than 10-15 years ago I didn’t check, the customers prefer p2w model, the games provides bots programs for euros or free, afk farming is also legit…
I 'm not taking any stance but just saying.

#151

So if everyone put as much effort into cheating the fk out of the game as that crew did, then we would all get along and make the game a better game?

Let’s just praise all the people with multiple computers running multiple accounts and gold credit cards for their dedicated time and money in “beating the game”

Is this your logic?

I’m sure some skill was involved in “beating ET”, but give those same gears and attribute levels to another team and they’ll accomplish the same thing.

/Hue.

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#152

Skill ? Tos ?

http://notihoy.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/261-755x380.jpg

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#153

Calm yourself before you get caught up in generalities, this ‘crew’ did not ‘cheat the fk out of the game’ it started with an idea, that idea was supported by many within Inertia, and it was a monumental effort from everyone within Inertia to bring our lead group to the Completion of 40F. You won’t understand the minute details from start to finish, you couldn’t, so I understand your position of crying “cheating the fk out of the game” and don’t fault you for adolescent ignorance.

You should simply play at your own pace, I live a very comfortable life and choose to support IMC in my leisure… this allows me to push my char to its top end limits. This is what I enjoy, much like maybe you enjoy a nice tall beer at your local pub from time to time. But that shouldn’t bother you so much, and it shouldn’t be a surprise to you that because of this we are strong enough to complete end game content.

The option is available to you as well. But if deflecting your anger and believing we “cheated to the top” helps you sleep at night then by all means - it is your prerogative.

-S

#154

Some people need their faces seared with a hot iron

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#155

I don’t think he cares that much about “you and your crew” hitting end game content at all. In the other hand, he could be pissed (and most of the haters here too) seeing “you and your crew” posting on public forum how strong you are and “how dedicated” you had to be in order to do this stuff, while everybody knows from a public statement that “you and some of your crew” rmt’d and hook’d the ■■■■ out of the game. In the end, nobody really cares on your comfortable life throwing $$ to imc, but it’s still sad to see cocky players like you trying so hard to grow epenis, on a dying game, with more and more players leaving. If you really want to help IMC, then what you are doing now is the exact opposite. You should just keep throwing bills to IMC, but you should keep it between “you and your crew”, especially when you are standing on the top of the Hook64 mountain.

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#156

Why are you signing your posts? LOL

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#157

THIS NAME IS SO MUCH WIN:D

#158

Actually, I’m just playing Tree of Forums.
And it’s fun to write words that trigger responses out of folks like you.

The truth stings, eh?

It doesn’t bother me that you spend tons of money on the game.
It just bothers the player base that you’d like to claim some form of legitimate skill and want some recognition from your peers at your accomplishment.

What accomplishment?
Anyone with a giant wallet can do that.
Anyone who crashes the channel repeatedly to over upgrade their gears can do that.
Anyone who bullies other afk sorc/necro farmers away can do that.
Anyone who runs multiple bots to farm all the RNG can do that.

So…what accomplishment?
IMC welcomes your business.

Tree of HookERs

/hue

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#159

Wrong, I didn’t crash channels to upgrade my gear. Simply your speculations. And wrong, even if you do have a massive wallet - like I’ve said multiple times, it still requires high mechanical skill. You can’t be bad at video games.

Solmiki will chew you up and spit you right out.

This seems to sting you, judging by your emotional responses much more than it stings me.

Don’t mistake anything, I don’t need or want recognition. This post is here for the sole purpose of letting you know rank 8 is complete, which server accomplished it, and what players were involved. You might be overthinking things.

#160

Incorrect! Having better gear actually makes it so you need less skill by allowing for more flexibility and errors. If you were to say reverse this whole thing around to where your accomplishment was done without meta classes and good gear then people would praise your feats. That doesn’t seem to be the case here and you’ve seemingly got this whole community built against you for some odd reason. I could only imagine why but that’s because they are jealous of you right?

Could never be that you’re doing things openly flaunting questionable means of achieving your accomplishments like doping in sports or something. I’m sure it was all hard work and dedication of using skill to progress and not just gearing up with the best stuff and the best classes taking 6+ months of simple trial and error to finally get there.

Everyone understands that you are 2 legit 2 quit and just haters.

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#161

I am not sure if you have ever been inside Solmiki or not, but what you are saying is a generality. There is content that I’m sure top end gear will allow you to get through with “less skill” As you have stated. Solmiki is not that content however, and won’t allow you to progress with this so called “less skill” just by means of gear. You are not fully aware of all the mechanics inside the tower and just how hard mobs hit.

Step inside and you will know for yourself.

Great! You are finally getting on the right track! It was hard work and dedication, and lots of trial and error.

I’m happy to see you finally making speculations that are closer to the truth!

All the best,

-S

#162

So then you all could reroll on a different server and do the same thing right? Also everybody streams everything leveling/grinding/ect to show you don’t cheat too. Because since everyone is so skilled they know exactly what to do and could easily do it without all that gear or anything. Make it a speed run too while we are at it and see who completes it the fastest within the non-cheating or whale category class.

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