We are definately up for a speed run challenge with another group, that sounds like a great idea!
And we streamed a 21-35f gear run yesterday, gave the info out in shout for viewing pleasure. We plan to do it often so you can catch us next time!
Would love to see a dead fresh start VOD of you all rolled on a different server showing no Hook64 shenanigans and actual real hard work farming for your accomplishments. Nobody would be able to question then with solid proof your skill of if you cheated or not. As it stands right now this empire and what you’ve done is questionable otherwise because like I’m saying there’s mysteriously a whole majority of the community against you. I really don’t care myself but saying that it’s a little weird and awkward of you boasting this whole skill talk without actually showing anything for it.
I’m personally not going to invest time or money into this game because the company is complete garbage and I don’t care about having to prove myself to anyone here. You on the other hand do and act really cocky about it in some of these posts gaining a bad reputation for it. So when you’re trying to tell me and other people it’s all about skill and not the gear/classes then actually prove it in the real test.
A real skilled person could do more with less and not need to flaunt and brag.
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What could sting me?
The way I see it, the almighty Mother of Whalletknights is responding to but a mere pleb of a player in response to some accusations of legitimacy. I didn’t speculate anything. It was already out there, the players of all the servers know who and what kind of player you are.
Maybe I should feel honored that my statements are being replied to.
The only emotional response I’m getting is.
I believe you are overthinking things that your “accomplishment” was worth showing to everyone.
Cool video? I don’t know. I’m not interested in a bunch of mechanical skill pressing of the keyboard/mouse/controller.
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In terms of difficulty which would you say is harder
40f in r8
or 20f in r7
40f in r8 would be my answer. The final dps check on floor 36 (195 kill count) I think is much harder than the floor 16 (195 kill count) in r7, partly due to the fact that sometimes 3-4 mobs stand still and are immune to aggro (you have to physically move them with skills such as bash, mordshlang, earthquake, etc)
This causes a much slower wave spawn if you cannot clear the mobs that DO move down to your position in a timely fashion.
I’m not sure yet if this is an intended mechanic as the mobs seem to interact in the same way on Ktos. There are a few mechanics we have figured out to circumvent this, which il go over in our video once I finish that up.
Not to mention the final boss at 40F - Grim Reaper - boasts an hp bar of 67 million.
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crashbandicot or rayman or pepsiman or rockman or even grandthief auto is far more skill dependant than tos.
tos is just fat equipment/skill attribute spamming hotkey pewpewpew
meh
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This, while subjective, I’m going to have to disagree with. There is nothing in Solmiki R8 that’s particularly engaging, or challenging. 36/F - 40/F is a gear check and a Melstis check, and that’s it. You need both to clear it, but neither involve intricate mechanics.
Taoist, Sage, and Miko have largely dumbed down numerous floors as well that would otherwise have a purpose to them. These jobs are associated with R8.
Melstis ruins strategy in both R7 20/F and R8 40/F. There’s no arguing this. In the same fashion that Missile Hole is considered largely overpowered.
There was literally only one team that cleared 7/F before it received the HP fix to the traveling portal. It required us to place Stop at 4:27 at first spawn at end of first grate to give the portal enough time to move away from them and give the SR enough time to tag all the mobs to kite them. It required us to bring Aukuras scrolls to generate energy a little bit faster. By 3:27 end of second grate we needed World Tree prepared to prevent Night Maiden spawn from one-shotting the portal. Ausrine had to be given to the SR mid-kite by 3:35 to make sure he wouldn’t be killed by ranged attacks at 3:27 dropping aggro. Statues were built on the outskirts to hopefully draw outlying ranged mobs that weren’t in silence. Then there was one more spawn at 2:27 end of first grate on second lap, of both Night Maiden and Prison Fighter, and we had to use Stop and silence again to make sure no random drop-in would one shot the portal. Barrier was completely ineffective as Prison Fighter actually just ignore Barrier and Night Maiden could just out-range it. All cooldowns had to be ready at specific intervals to stop any RNG mobs from dropping too close to the portal and killing it before we had a chance to even react.
12/F, and 13/F were considered extremely challenging floors for their time until people started finding uninteresting ways to clear them (Melstis, or Ice Wall for 13/F). 12/F continues to give people problems to this day even in R8, but it was the truest testament to a Cleric’s ability to manage heals in two places without dying. We had to trial so many different methods until we understood that breaking a few crystals to slow the decay and finding a safe place to kill mobs while the Cleric snuck out to place a Heal on the Celestial Sphere, pull aggro, and return in time for Pass without dying was the safest way to do things. 13/F pre-Ice Wall strategy was notorious for being a team-killer if you did not have a Priest, and was a test of controlling multi-hits but still doing enough to pass the floor. If your Warlock didn’t turn off their Pole of Agony: Duration attribute, they were as good as dead as soon as they began damage on the egg. You had to smartly use your skills on the egg and isolate the green pag, rotating DPS if needed.
15/F can be considered to be the most mechanically challenging boss fight in ToS, in general, back in R7. We did not have the means to just boast enough defense to reduce damage to minimal amounts like we can nowadays. We had to Fade for the first 20 seconds, lure the dogs down the stairs with one person not in Fade, block them off with a Barrier at the top, fight not harassed by mobs for one minute anticipating the spawn at 3:27, move to the bottom of the map at one of several designated ‘safe’ spots from the orbs that would essentially be a guaranteed death if you got hit by even one, make sure that the dogs stayed blocked off, lure the new ranged pags and kite them around the map, without getting hit by the projectiles that would knock you down and let them catch up to you and kill you, DPS the boss, ignore the 2:27 adds because they were melee and negligible, and finish the fight like that, only backing off to safe zones when people were in trouble or to meet up with the Chronomancer kiting the pags to make sure you received Pass as they made their round, around the map.
All of this was completely thrown out the window with Melstis and R8. This doesn’t include the era of tradeable Blessed Shards and the defense buff update, which while not directly R8-specific, is associated of the same time period. This is why I say while you can have the achievement of clearing it, there’s not much prestige when it’s cleared in the fashion that it is. 21/F - 35/F is easy even without Melstis, but everything after that is just a check.
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Nothing is challenging anymore since transcendence, shards tradeable, everything tradeable. Nowadays you see random people who nobody knows with stage 10 weapons. Melstis is a garbage skill since R7, the second team who cleared Lolopanther ET on iTOS did it with Melstis. Barrier scroll destroyed the “tank” concept on Tree of Savior, being a real tank doesn’t exist. Lolopanther ET was just meta builds with the same dps check as it is with Solmiki, the big difference now is that ANY class can clear Earth Tower, this is specially directed to the swordsman tree.
The reason so many people quit this game was just because of meta builds back in april, people wouldn’t take non high aoe dps to anything. The only meta right now, is getting stage 10 weapons and some trans on armors.
Give it a few months and you’ll be seeing non meta builds clearing Solmiki.
I could keep going on what’s wrong with PvE and PvP content but this is not the thread for it.
Let these guys enjoy their world first (except kTOS ofc).
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i prefer it the current way. Every class (if not totally retarded) should be able to clear the endgame content.
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We not only get IMC’ed, we get Soviet’ed too…
What is Tree of Forums coming to?
huehuehue
Tree of scrubs/plebs probably?
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Good explanation on why soviet could clear 40F. Every veteran on Orsha knows this guy RMT for shards and 100% attributes. Not to mention hookers69 crashing to upgrade his gear months ago.
Let me know when a FULL legit team clears 40F. Even if soviet’s teammates are clean, practicing ET with a known cheater doesn’t count.
None of my gear was exploited, this is a simple speculation on your part. And you are wrong, which is the best part for me.
The 40F Clear was very real, and it happened. Because you didn’t want it to be me, won’t make it go away. This is the world we live in.
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Well I appreciate peoples opinions and insights in to the difficulty of the place.
As someone who’s recently started running it, the first 5 floors have been easy enough but I was aware of the absurd damage checks on later floors and was curious how it compared to the old ET.
I know transcending makes a lot of content a bit irreverent which I do think is a shame but I certainly won’t be sinking any money in to this game for epic gear, I buy a cosmetic here and there and that’s it.
I’ll do my dailies every day on a bunch of alts though so my gear decent but not amazing.
Hopefully towards the end of r8 it will be high enough transcendence to push for the upper floors.
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The amount of hate and retardness in this topic is over the top.
If you cannot handle some random guys progress faster than you by throwing huge amounts of money at the screen, you should never play a game where such a thing is theoretically possible in the first place. Not to mention this game is a huge imbalanced mess, and personal i couldn’t care less who clears what world or region first.
Who gives a ■■■■? Its not like there is a TOSprogress site which gives you free e-peen points and random fangirl panties. Unless sovijet got some free erotic pictures from nicola showing her in various exposing modeling poses as a reward, so his hammer can get some additional work.
So congrats russian guy + other randoms. You beat the game. Now start doing sellruns. If you exploited however, go ■■■■ yourselfs.
That’s what the responses are about lol, he’s a hook user
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