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Is WIZ3 KINO3 be good/decent for PVP,PVE?

Class and Rank Wizard
#61

My friend was 186 and had 7k hp with 40 point invested in con and like 300+ Int. I thought full con will give you like almost 17k LOL.

@Mirarara: Nothing catch people attention more than that explosive Meteor or exploding monster from Electrocute :stuck_out_tongue:

#62

You made me regret more about not playing Kino 3 now.

#63

oh wow there i realise my typo - ment to be “i regret getting cryo instead of wiz2” ya wiz 3 is making life alot easier for psys -cryo is more of a “hard mode” cause youll encounter problems damage wise - right now i can barely kill bunnies on full con but next grind spot i wont be able to kill huge guys with just 1 skill…also noting that bunnies are ice ele hence arde gives more damage boost on those

#64

I’m also glad that Psychokino has been widely discussed, because since iCBT1 it have been underrated.

Boss wise, yes i think Elementalist is better because it is quite impossible to standstill since you can’t CC boss and they will hit you with their AoE spell.

But there is 1 more thing, it is the skill attribute damage %, Psycho is cheaper to max the attribute for 2 skills compare to Elementalist need to max several skills.

And, Elementalist have more total multi-hits while so it might scale better in late game.

#65

Yup this is why people go wiz3 and max sleep. Even with the +50% you will hit a point where you can’t one-shot. This is where sleep helps.

Not a fan of full con personally. Im almost level 200 and I’ve done just fine with a int/con 3/1 split with like rank 5 plate armor mastery.

If you dont run plate, try it. It’s much better than cloth imo. I also find the whole wizard path in general to be pretty weak compared to other classes

#66

bunnies killing High lvl players since the begging of the mmorpg times :stuck_out_tongue:

in FFXI …no matter what level u are…there will always be a bunny out there that can kill you :stuck_out_tongue:

#67

running plate ya - shield for pvp cause im cryo…i never have any downtime tho nver recover hp pots etc…wich might be needed on low con cause of archer etc around

#68

I was trying to sneak this build up, but now in the last 2-3 days it has become mainstream.

RIP sleeper OP build

#69

Are PP, magnetic force, Raise and gravity pole all very effective CC in dungeons? I solo queue a lot using the dungeon matchmaking so sometimes I’d get parties with sub-optimal lineup (e.g. no cleric).

My Wiz3 is approaching next rank up… still can’t decide Ele or psycho :sweat:

#70

Wiz 3 Kino is stronger at PVE at rank 4, probably around the same or slightly stronger at rank 5 (due to CC). It’s at rank 6 and above Wiz 3 Kino 3 will lose to Ele 3 in terms of damage.

#71

If you’re losing the DPS race on a boss vs an Ele wizard, just Swap the boss away from his aoes? :slight_smile:

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#72

And ready to get fked by the Kino 3/Ele 3/Pyro of hundred other parties casting their AOE spell in the same spot.

I don’t really recommend it.

#73

Swap has overheat.

Anyway, just got my arde dagger (first cube!), my Wiz3/Psyko (can’t wait to be psy3!) is fun as heck~ Especially since its being leveled together with 3 others and we wait on each other according to everyone’s schedules/chores/work/other life stuff.

Psychic Pressure right now is a bit annoying to use well, if the tank moves a bit and the mobs run out of range, wasted~ but for bosses its great. Expecting mighty things out of Gravity Pole~ just about 80 levels to go before I reach it x_x

#74

Im about to reach the part where I have choose between ele and kino. Is kino really that much better?

I only care about pvp/gvg what do you guys think would prevail in pvp overall?

#75

If you care PvP = Kino
If you care PvE = Elem

nuff said

#76

That’s a funny idea, will certainly try it :smiley:

#77

Psy 3 can deny ELe 3 dps if they want to LOL.
Raise can make boss fly, and you know how Frost Cloud interacts with flying monster :wink:

Swap can deny Hail too. :stuck_out_tongue:

Btw if you goes Psy 3 and want to do PvP, go Warlock. Featherfoot’s abilities don’t work on player from what I heard. Not too mention, too many channeling abilities actually deny your dps.

#78

You won’t want to do that unless there are only 2 party (yours and your competitor) in the map.

#79

Oh I did it to my Ele friend just to joke with him. I wouldn’t do it in world boss, lol. That would be rude.

Ayway, do you guys think PP’s AoE should go up with level. Like not anything big but how about half of Flame Ground? Right now it is a 180 degree around caster in meele range.

#80

Hi guys, what do you think of Wiz2 Psycho3 and 2 circles of fillers?