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INFINITE Money exploit, please GMs read THIS

There’s no exploit. Payment slip is the simplest and easiest payment method without the need of a credit card. It’s a blessing.

You print the slip, you pay for it on a bank, and as soon as it’s confirmed, the payment is fulfilled.

-Then- you can download a game. You simply -can’t- get into a damn game without the confirmation.

There’s no exploit, just people saying crap.

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bro, brazilians make this exploit, but brazilians are trying to solve this

The thing is. seems like this affects DLCs, not the game. You can freely download the game, and Steam tells IMC that the player bought a DLC, even if they didn’t (at least I understood that’s the exploit). They can have it already downloaded, then switch accounts. The game contents are common to all steam accounts logged in the same machine, only personal data is different.

False, paypal’s payment is automated. It doesnt let you buy unless it instantly charges you to your credit card/paypal credit. Also, if you just charge back everything on ur credit card 25 times, they’ll call you and be like “what the hell are you doing”? This isnt an “exploit” anymore, in many countires its called fraud, which is a crime

Do you need an explanation in portuguese or can I explain in english? You seem to be missing the DLC exploit part. :grin:

Yeah sure, I’m here reporting this bug to get ban.

Otherwise, I can confirm this isnt exclusive to Brazil. Two friends (americans) told me right now it worked from EUA. So, should ban EUA too? Think about it before spread ■■■■ here.

There’s no exploit, just people saying crap.

So delusional. It’s kind of funny.

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man noone is going to be ip-ban, calm down. It’s a steam problem, nothing to do with IMC, they could just remove the “boleto” payment option till the fix it, i think imc is going to tell then about the problem.

Besides the “mass chargebacks flip a trigger” part, I can confirm a payment can be refunded before steam processes it. I don’t remember all the details, but some time ago I bought a friend a game on sale. Now, I had some balance on my main account at the moment, and I didn’t want to use it on that (USD were hard to get in my country at the time), so when I accidentally did, I quickly refunded on Paypal. The item remained on my inventory, I had to wait around half an hour before Steam removed it. Now, that was a gift, not activated, so nothing happened with that. But if we’re talking about an activated DLC, the trigger to IMC is sent. Even if you stop having it in your account, the EA was granted, and also the TP. It’s exactly why the DLCs aren’t refundable via Steam itself.

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We’d need to read the contract between Steam and developers to leave speculative grounds, but DO I think this is indeed a solid case for a suit. :grin:

The main problem is this status “your purchase is now pending”. You can do it many ways. Few minutes ago two friends of United States got the 50$ pack using a credit card (fake or not, I dont know).

my assumption is IMC allowed a loose security with payment methods, there is a way to expedite such transactions, depends on Steam and IMC’s agreement. it’s similar with other online wallets like Paypal, Skrill etc.
basically, Steam would consider any transaction paid without any pending status on IMC’s end. this would work if the agreement involves staggered payments from Steam to IMC, like every 24 hours (e.g. all payments made between 1 am - 12nn will be received the next day at 1am etc)

Yep, you re right. There is many ways to do that, thats why this isn’t exclusive to Brazil. Since you get “payment pendent status” you get the founder items, so you can cancel pretty easy.

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It would be so ironic if imc had agreed to Valve terms of service preventing Valve from being sued lol.

ToS getting TOSed.

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How its “infinite money exploit” since Steam doesn’t let you get 2 of the same package? In the worst case you just got a token or two worth of TP

Even if its not, TP doesn’t buy silver, the game’s economy doesn’t revolve around TP… you can have 300 tokens, but they’ll only worth a damm thing if there are players that buys theses tokens with silver, otherwise they’re just trash.

Also, the transtactions can be EASILY tracked down by steam and PERMA BAN all the accounts involved with it, not just ToS’s account, but your whole STEAM account… you’re lucky to not get caught with a lawsuit by steam with several charges, because you know, FRAUD IS A CRIME.

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First, this is a flaw in their system, as it allows you to use something you “promised” you would pay, but didn’t pay yet.

Second, this is a general problem with delayed payments. Brazil is one of the countries where there’s a payment method like that.

Third, until you give an exploit for free TP to other players and they don’t use it simple because they are good people, you can’t say BR’s are worse than anyone. They just had the opportunity which some others didn’t have.

Finally, I hope for no complete wipes, but I would accept item/silver wipe :smiley: . And I hope for a massive ban wave.

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Payment slip -needs- the payment confirmation, or else you get nothing.

No exploit through this.

Debit or credit-based paypal payment can’t be freely cancelled, and in any way, ToS is non-refundable DLC.

What is delusional about it?

Payment slip IS the easiest and most accessible payment method available, and it’s the best thing Steam could allow for without having to pay extra for keeping a credit card or pay through paypal.

If for the fact of the game being a DLC, IMC decided to sell ToS as such, it’s their problem, not anything to do with Steam or its payment methods.

Afaik, whatever you buy can only be accessed after the payment confirmation, makes no sense for it to be otherwise.

Why people want wipe when this glitch just created tokens, not money.
Every silver that those fraudulent users got was earned by a player. Only Steam/IMC is losing money here, the market is not crashing because of this.

Even if they permaban all the accounts, it’s already ruined the economoy if they have been recreating Steam accounts and manipulating the market using the tokens and whatnot.

Its infinite because people re creating new steam accounts… You re right, there is a limit, 3 packs per steam account. But there is no limit for ghost accounts. Thats why some people are holding money in fake accounts, or using that money to buy an item on market, then trade with main character. Got it?