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Increase damage of archer, wizard, to compare to swordsman

swordsman is the only viable class right now because of their high damage meanwhile wizard and archer attack take too long to kill things, also they consume too much sp so they cannot spam skills

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My wizard kills things pretty fast. :point_up: At high levels with only 25 SPR you don’t really run out of SP if you manage your SP pool properly.

Archer is actually really strong late game, just that people don’t have the patience or either don’t like grinding for extended periods of time before reaching your power spike.

Tbh, swordsman just seems overpowered because it’s basic attack is able to hit multiple targets at once. The actual strong thing about it is it’s survivability in extended fights.

Everyone is mainly looking at all the classes in a solo play viewpoint and forget that they all have a unique role. As well as that some builds (Not just cleric+) actually do a lot better during parties instead of soloing.

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Seconded. I started playing the CBT with 3 other friends. 2 quit in the first couple days because archer and wizard were so weak compared to Swordsman. It really is a huge turn off for anyone that doesn’t want to play the Swordsman class, but wants to be an effective dps. The SP resource issue is another thing. If you put too many points into SPR to the point that you can spam your abilities, and not enough points into INT or DEX/STR (Archer), your damage becomes extremely lackluster, and things take even longer to kill.

why swordsman class kill early boss quicker than wizard and archer? no one is going to grind a weak class
not only that, grinding a class that can kill things faster is going to be at a higher level than grinding a class that kill thing slowly
increase basic attack damage i say

The fact that leveling has to be such a task for Wizard / Archer (especially Archer) is the issue. If you plan your class build out for a late game dungeon composition since you can’t reset classes, your leveling experience is going to be so slow and painful. There needs to be some sort of Class reset system. I am playing Wizard right now and I’m enjoying it, but I do wish we had some better SP regen, especially as a Linker.

As a level 100 Thaumaturge, I don’t think the wizard tree needs a buff. There are very specific things that could use buffs (Wizard circle 2/3, maybe cryo) but as a Pyromancer, I kill things very quickly.

I didn’t even spec into Pyro 2 or 3 and I’m still killing things solo really fast, even bosses.

I don’t know about whatever level you’re at, but at 100+ I see archer/wizards doing just fine.

Wizards can just put down AoEs where enemies will spawn and can kill them without having to even be there.

If you want more SP regen, have you considered putting points into SPR?

their basic attack realy needs buff
im wizard circle 2 i can only rely on basic attack because my only two attack energy bolt and earthquake cooldown is too long and consume too much sp and i can barely kill anything even with all points in int

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Play with a party, on my wizard I played with a party and it’s totally worth your time until you get to a comfortable character level. Don’t expect the game to hold your hand 24/7 and actually go reach out to other people for help.

I one shot stuff 10 levels higher than me on my archer no problem, what are you talking about? You mess your build and blame the char? lol About wiz, its unbalanced right now, but the subclasses are working well as far as i noticed.

People are dumb and if they are bad it can’t possibly be their own fault. With that said im only at 74 but the only balance thing iv noticed is early game catar stroke is broken but it seems to be falling off so meh.

Would you like to post your level/gear, etc so people can point out what might possibly be wrong?

Such as have you upgraded your weapon? Have you considered NOT amassing point in INT because the same amount of points into SPR would increases your regen far more than the damage you’d lose from those ints?

Or that basic attack sucks in general? Those swordsman do not crit for 4k with auto-attack.

This is like sub level 100 balance though. Not super important imho.

Well its a matter of trial and error, i got into the error of pick Diev without search before and got a bugged class that only 1 skill work (Carve attack), i remade my cleric, i was going to do monk but i changed my mind after messing up with Krivis and its stats a bit, my current build is 1:1 INT:SPR Deprotected Zone drops enemies armor by 100+ so my weak basic attacks work as if i was working on STR DEX buld, Zaibas can wipe out almost 15 mobs (i might get some more levels on its attribute, currently on level 15), and im planing on going Sadhu C3.

There’s just certain classes with issues. Wizard spells damage spells are kind of meh, and they don’t get much better, even with Wizard 2 or 3. Wizard 2 or 3 needs help because it’s painful for them to level.

Pyromancer is way better.

and not everyone wants to party with me

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Mage and cryo need more damage, i’m killing the bosses waiting ice pick cooldown and basic attacks.

Thats because IMC didnt implemented the damage variation from INT stats, well i think it should be implemented in any magic caster class since it makes sense.

Not sure about cryo skills maybe not enough INT, people tend to waste important stats on CON for some classes, at low levels theres not a vast gamma of skills so we are bound to be stuck on auto attacks.

Psh…What build are you to one shot stuff on archer… SPR? At what level does Archer get on par with swordsman?

LMAO Go learn the class mechanics first then come say something to me, Dex 3:1 STR +5 Bow or +3 Xbow dont matter,it do its job right, and even more after you pick Ranger, more aoe skills more killing. Sorry if you dont try out what you can with the stats or skills or even the classes itself.