… I feel the urge to post it into every thread where I see this…
How can even ppl imagine a class reset like you just switching to another class and you are already class lvl 15 and you just distribute your points and everything is alright?..
LOL NOOO…that should never happen pls…stop it…it is ridiculous…
I don’t mind a class reset but there has to be consequences of what you do.
A class reset could only exist imo if you actually lose the rank that you reset so you have to level it up again…and that also means it should be only allowed to reset ranks from the latest rank you have…so if you want to reset your Rank 6 class you have to reset rank 7 first…or both together depending on the system but always counted from the last rank.
It’s ridiculous that ppl would rly just want to switch classes without any consequences and get a hard to level character on max… Like… rly??
Put long cooldowns on it (once a month, twice a year etc)
Make it cost a lot so it’s not available for every player and their mother
You’re acting like we’re asking this to be a free service that everyone will be able to abuse
People like you can ignore it and plan your build before hand nobody will be stopping you from doing that just because this would exist
it would exist for the people who work a lot, can’t level a new character that easily
if you don’t like it don’t use it it’s that simple.
The level cap is eventually going to hit 600. Right now I can understand the lack of a class change because the cap is not that difficult to hit. But as we begin to get new classes, new ranks and higher level caps the need for a class change is going to grow and it is GOING to happen.
This game is F2P, as time goes on people are going to get tired, if IMC wants to keep making money in the future maybe 2 - 3 years from now they will start releasing things like this it’s inevitable.
What is a huge negative in that?..that you should have to level up your class levels again?
You would still keep most of your stuff and your base level…
This not a class reset what you guys want but class swapping…
It would also turn out to be another p2w option but I guess that doesn’t matter either.
I think you are the delusional… I don’t support it this way.
Why don’t you guys just ask for a full maxed out character that you can pay for then?
You don’t want to realise the other way is total abuse of the game.
There are classes like Oracle and Pardoner that are hard to level…with what you want you would just level up with PD/Druid or whatever strong class then just swap to the hard to level classes…
It can’t exist this way…and if that’s what ppl want you totally lost my support.
increase the price based on how high of a rank the character is. Make it cap out at once per x amount of time and have the cooldown team based so you can’t use it on alts.
I’m actually for a single circle reset. Limited to a single circle only, with regrinding or some other sort of work, all utility classes excluded. I usually hate handholding and want people to pour hours into a game to feel an attachment to it, but I want people who have time constraints to not feel regret for simply playing a game based on the info the game/official site offers alone.
People who are interested in having the best, cookie-cutter build will research and plan thoroughly before. You do not need a circle reset if you’re very into minmaxing or w/e people call it these days, unless there are flavor of the month builds or whatever due to rebalances. Even then, a single reset per character would deter that. You can’t keep up with the flavor of the month if you only have one change, and classes are still prone to rebalances. This is a change made only if you consider your build unplayable or personally unfun for you. It would not drastically kill off the build diversity unless everyone is a massive idiot and landslides towards a single build (from a single circle change? how) with classes that are highly likely to be rebalanced with every rank implementation and new content.
For people that just dive into the game, and don’t expect to be permanantly punished for making a random build and neither have the time nor initial interest to research everything, a circle reset would make their experience more enjoyable, I would think.
This is coming from someone who has leveled a pure support build past 200. yeah, as in, I only had energy bolt as an attack skill until 177. Even then, I picked Rune Caster, aka the highly impractical class where nobody uses the attack skills ever unless they have C3 wizard whiiich I did not take. I planned my build beforehand. I don’t plan to change my build (unless rank 9 has different plans for me), I enjoy it despite all the downsides. If other people got to change a single circle of their build, I wouldn’t feel cheated nor would I feel disdain towards them. that be me two cents.
I don’t know… I still don’t like it. It would still allow ppl to have a hard to level class more easily. The cooldown part doesn’t even matter in that case. Some would still use it for that.
Also I don’t like the price increase…those who can afford it wouldn’t care about it anyway…on the other hand it would be a bit evil against those who can’t afford it that much.
there are games on the market where a classreset is absolutly no problem… even some where u don’t even have ever to choose…
Secret world for example has absolutly free classes which u can change anytime …and it works great there but its an different game with a absolutly different class design etc …
It would harm this game …
Tos was from the start no easygoing themepark game and in that aspekt it couldn’t compete with any of the mmos out there .
It does a lot of things in an oldscool way and i think the most people here appretiate it.!
Btw i think this game will get a classreset for sure…
But to keep this feeling of charakter identification like now it should be no reset the player could choose.
It will probably be a automatic reset after major gamechanges (new content, new max level , new classes) and should be again a diffficult choice.
Another option would be to sell potions which resets ur circle choice but u will have to level it from new.
In my opinion this would be a good tradeoff for all the effort u still have to put into ur change even if its easier as start from scratch.
And if its still to easy for the most here to change middle pics like c3/c4 because they don’t need much exp for a level 280 char the resetet circle could need the job exp of the last circle … so for a max level char always the c7 exp …
I think than no one will complain if someone choose to level 600mio job exp just to get into a support/ crafter role circle
I have a rank 7 pardoner and it wasnt hard to level at all. Don’t spread myths. If anything my wiz 3 / ele 3 is significantly harder to level until ele 3.
Lmao I can’t believe you just called respeccing a form of homogenization and then used WoW as your example.
You basically pulled a modern day gaming Godwin. Congratulations. Since I’m not a twit though, I will explain to you (very carefully) why you are remiss.
Having a circle reset on the shop does not reduce the amount of class variety available. It simply helps people correct mistakes in their builds. You want people to live with the mistakes that they make for the benefit of ‘variety’.
The issue you can’t seem to stuff in to your skull here is people don’t live with it. They go play another ■■■■■■■ game and that’s a flaw in this game’s system. That’s something every developer wants to prevent. It is in their best interest to implement a circle reset item whether it be the TP shop or obtained by some extreme means in-game. Even once per account or once at lvl 100, and another at lvl 200. It doesn’t matter. Anything will do.
WoW became homogenized because of class balance reasons. They tweaked all the classes to have skills that bore similar qualities because at the end of the day they couldn’t tweak the game to be properly balanced when giving people variety of skills. This class was always complaining that they didn’t have what this class had. It was a nightmare especially for PvP. I played consistently at 2700+ ratings throughout Cataclysm so your reference is far from lost on me, and it also highlights your in-acuity on this subject.
Basically the irony here, i you need and want people to ■■■■ up their builds. If they didn’t, if everyone knew exactly the best build to run for their tastes with 0 margin of error at every single rank before they ever even touched the game, then class variety in endgame groups and PvP or whatever would be lesser to you, regardless, because it all goes back to the game’s inherent balance not being perfect.
That wouldn’t bother you at all because each of these players would be playing the most effective build for their chosen role, and thus you would never, ever feel any kind of negative performance due to it. Your groups would be faster, and more efficient simply by design. Homogenization in an MMO means classes become more similar, it has nothing to do with having the ability to make changes to a build.
Your desire for variety comes hinged to expecting people to have to live with accidental ■■■■ ups to their build due to a reasonable lack of foresight in to how the class plays. That’s pretty damn selfish.
If class resets are in ToS, it will be another Diablo3, except that there are only 4 classes now as opposed to 80. This will make the game incredibly boring to play. Anyone can switch anytime hence it is just the 4 base classes. There is no longer the fun in leveling through a full support class believing the slow leveling and grind is worth the effort so that the build will be much better in the later levels.
To those who are into minmax~ing and think they chose wrongly, why not use your knowledge to make the best out of what you spec into? Try the game in non cookie-cutter builds. Players are more likely to remember/respect another player who plays really well with a non cookie-cutter build rather than one using a top cookie-cutter build.
How do you think those top builds come about? From players who are willing to explore into weird class combinations, or players who spec wrongly yet willing to make the best out of their build. Be a pioneer and inspire others. :3
Also c1 or c3?