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iDreamy's Guide to Scout C3

i think hakka would be good mainly coz of O.H sword and better if there is good lv 330 o.h.sword

My new project is simply archer3-scout3-musket2 (rank8), but do not be discouraged from doing the OPs build, mines at lv273 and great, I’m just looking for something different. As I have said my only issues with the idreamy scout after 4 months or so of play is the need to be at point blank range to get your burst dps skills off and the lack of critical rate, sneak attack is only usable on bosses and I do not want to sacrifice all my card spots for werewolf b/c its still not going to be 100% crit or anywhere close.

you sire, had greatly discouraged me.
now i’m torn apart between continuing idreamy’s build or my a3sc3musket build.
i’m pretty sure idreamy’s build is better than a3sc3musket. i will give video proof later

This is the problem, people think its an competition, its not. I am very fond of my lv273 idreamy scout, if I could turn the clock back to april I would of rolled 4 or 5 identical scouts just to spam 15min 132 dungeon runs tbh.
I have been playing the idreamy scout since nearly the start of founders early access though, I am making the new a3/s3/m2 one for a different playstyle and an additional dungeon runner is all, its not replacing my other scout.

no other scout build will be able to match the burst dps on bosses of double flare shot + feint barrage, the problem is having to put yourself at pointblank range when a boss can and will hit you for 10-15k in the blink of an eye, I never thought a3-s3-m2 would out dps my rogue version, its just going to be much safer, your dps face down is 0

hi, im also running idreamy scout. I am planning to go for mergen. Since mergen utilize bow then we cannot use Mana as off hand. That means we will have less crit rate. wil this affect the Stat distribution? im running 3str 1dex

hey can u say how much does ur barrage combo give as damage? or u dont know? i mean dont need to be precise just around
and is just for curious metter =P

Wouldn’t ranger 's steady aim bring more to help out your big Musk damage skills than A3 though?

And butt stroke will ask you to get close once every 10 seconds as well, so it’s not that safe (though much better than barrage’s clunky animation*3 :grin:)

what if i combine iDreamy’s build with Nicola’s stat distribution?

@jchsc32 @greyhiem @Nicola (and of course everyone else aswell)
Sorry for bringing this up again but I don’t seem to get the answer from the previous posts.
Well, there are answers but I’d like a bit more in depth views on it ^^"

So my question:
Following the iDreamy build, wanting to focus on two-hand bow (strong personal preference) and planing to go Mergen at rank 8.
Keeping in mind that Sneak Hit is very situational and that later content keeps scaling your crit rate and evasion down, I’d really like to know what kind of stat distributions would be ā€˜good’ for this kind of build?

Being a personal dex and 100% crit preferer, I’d instantly say going high dex + ~50 con.
But then again, maybe we don’t need THAT much dex for a decent build (and we have still Sneak Hit for high crit res monsters/bosses).

So, would there be a ā€˜better’ allocation like 1str:3dex, 1str:2dex or even 1str:1dex or 2str:1dex ?
And what’s a preferred con sweetspot for this build, like ~50 con?

Thanks in advance for a lot of oppinions and answers.

Edit:
I like @Nicola s sort of 1str:1.5dex ratio, achieving high evasion and crit chance. But that’s probably too much for the iDreamy build, right?
Or would that still work out well, without gimping the damage considered Sneak Hit on bosses?

with 419STR, 1174 patk, +5SKS, manamana and 50% split arrow attribute my split arrow can crit 8k to non flying mob in dungeon 130. with nicola’s stats i think my split arrow’s crit wont be that high but will be more frequent. win some, lose some.
Do you want to pursue omnipotent build which has high STR, high crit rate, high evasion altogether? :stuck_out_tongue: yeah,me too

This is what i use and frankly i wouldn’t change anything even at my current level.

Sneak hit isn’t relayable, it’s just a bonus. nothing more. Wouldn’t build your build around it that’s for sure.

The thing is, once you hit 100k hp targets, you won’t one shot them anymore. So if you have ranger monsters or melee monsters they will swarm you. Which is fine because then you can use your flare shot to do additional damage on them. as kiting around flare shot with melee monsters is kinda hard.

This means you will be hit alot without evasion. In order to get high evasion you need either a high dex stat, or you need high evasion gear. If you lock yourself into a low dex stat you will have to get high evasion gear, which means you can’t get plate which you can do with a high dex char.

This means that whenever a attack goes through, you will be hit for a ton of damage, which requires you to spend more points into con.

And that all for a little bit more damage 1-3k on split arrow ( end dmg ) while also having to push lvl 6 crit gems in gear to keep the crit rate close towards the dex build but still less which result in lesser crits = on its own time again lesser damage. So it balances out damage wise anyway.

So to go str isn’t interesting to me. Specially when you look at rank 8 and there high base damage dex is going to favor a lot more with that.

I push in my builds 100 str and the reason for that is ( the other 50 comes from rank 7 and vubbe gloves + max peta ) to get more weight limit to carry more pots mainly. The extra damage and block penetration is also not unwelcome but more of a bonus.

Basically if you solo a lot, you will be tanking monsters a lot so defense is my n1 priority while keeping the crits going obviously:

The gear i use with this is 2x superior royal guards ( pants + top ) +3 = 300 def. gives A ton of damage reduction when a melee attack goes through. 2x +5 sissels, = 194 m.def ( for magic enemy’s mainly, as it will reduce the incoming damage by a lot )

Windrunner boots ( can pick anything in this slot, but i like the travel speed specially with stealth +5 runs peed buff, makes you super fast ), it’s gemmed to the bone tho to get decent evasion going.

Max peta and light gorithos +6 lvl 5 gemmed bow.

My crit is somewhere between 550-600 i believe, no clue exactly. And i like the char a lot. Maybe this helps you.

My split arrow attribute is at 70%, and crits for about 9,1k on normal monsters from what i can remember on my last run.

Stats depend on your gears and how much silvers you have. You dont want to go high str if you cant compensate for the crit ex lv 6 gems, sissels/glad max pet. Im not an expert with idreamy build or a rogue fan. Umm sorry im at work ill add more when I get home.

scout3 mergen in action

Is there anything I could replace Sissel? Thanks IMC now Battle Bracelet price has skyrocketed. Getting 2 will consume all of my silver stock

lv 8 green gem socketed to offhand will give you +75 crit rate, same as 2x sissel

Tks, I already have a Manamana with a lv6 gem. Now I need to fill those 2 ring slots, so few choices

red veris glove and isbality 3 socket gem

@Nicola Yeah you’re right. and that’s the first problem I have. No gear, no silver.
Actually it’s the first character I’m planing to get on with, just tested some mechanics before (and a lot of theory crafting), never went higher than level 40~50 on them (I know I know, shame on me).
So that’s why I’m sort of looking for a more general allocation and less gear oriented, as I don’t have any gear yet.

I’m no real fan of the Rogue class aswell, but I sort of apreciate that you go Ranger 1 with it, since I’m pretty fed up with hard low-level leveling by now and Ranger atleast gives some sort of low-level AoE skill.
On the other hand I’m a bit lost when it gets to good synergies whith exchanging Ranger/Rogue for something else. Fletcher would be good, but i don’t really like the idea of constantly having to craft and carry arrows around (+ it’s probably expensive).
If you have some recomendations for class changes, feel free to tell me =)

@Gatygun thank you for your input, that’s some sort of indepth insight that I am looking for.

Depend on what your main goal of end game is.
ET: go SR
Farm 130/145 (money maker): Scout 3
World Boss: Fletcher
High single target burst / PVP: Musk
Burst AoE / GVG : Cannoneer

Think of what you want to be when rank 8 comes then you can build your class with that rank 8 in mind.

Well it’s more of a choice between what class i like and which not.
E.g. SR and Hakkapelle looks interesting, but I hate mounts. Musk/Cannoneer are flat out a no for me.
Scout 3 is something I want to keep.
Fletcher I’m concerned about the arrow system… maybe I’m just to over cautious but it seems pretty tedious and costy (actually, is it? considered as a ā€˜first’ character).
Mergen I like because of the bow-exclusivenes and the skills.
Falconer 3 has this nice Preemptive Strike, but seems to be overall pretty useless (+ Scout 3 & Falc 3 won’t go together by now).

You see, I’m weird and complicated…

As for gameplay preferences:
-PvE
-Solo play (or mostly solo play but don’t mind if I should get a party invite)

-All PvP content (if you can call that PvP content at all) is a complete no-go for me. So, no 1v1, no team battles, no GvG, nothing.

Oh, and I don’t like using a quintillion long cooldown skills as a burst.
I’d rather have one or two 0 or low cooldown skills like Split Arrow or auto-attaks for regular use and one or two bursts for bosses and that’s it.
That’s the reason why the iDreamy build sounded interesting to me, even though it uses Rogue.