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iDreamy's Guide to Scout C3

Haven’t tried vs this boss, but lvling my first archer (R1 A2 Sc1 atm, but going fletcher this time around) I have noticed that some flying bosses are affected by my flare shot dot. Don’t know if this is intended, but do remember the first hit will hit flying mobs if you aim it on them.

unrelated, realized just how fun flu flu is yesterday now that I have the attribute. its almost like a swashbuckling gather, and makes setting up barrage so much quicker despite the 1min cd.

all flying bosses can be hit with ground attacks.

I’m a scout c3, i tried using search trigger for white tiger mask with my 2 friends in a party, when i approached the item one of my friend got it, and me and my other friend didnt get one, when i tried to search trigger the white tiger mask won’t pop up anymore. I thought that search trigger will give hats to all party members? I’m playing in Indonesian TOS ,party setting was rotational for item distribution.
Can any scout c3 help me? Is it a bug in Indonesian TOS?

Can anyone explain why 2 sissel and not gladiator band in this build? Doesn’t sissel only procs when your enemy dodge? I’m a A3>SC3>M should i still go full str and use 2 sissel bracelet?

You’re using sissel not for the effect but for the crit rate and damage bonus. The aoe attack ratio of glad band only ups your multishot and it isn’t really worth it for the build

Can i go full str and still do PVP?If i have the good equips like max peta and 2 sissel?

IMO Phada will outclass Gladiator b. anyway and sissel is the best opt. for crt rate. Aoe attack ratio does nothing in this build.

When you miss one attack. It happens more on pvp cuz mobs dont have even a mediocre evasion…

No.

Huh… No. This is the bare minimum you need for pvp anyway, plus 2 sissel even with high level green gems + more crt rate from items you will miss and / or non hit critical on high con / full con aias users.

Upgrade your weapon, try your best on your gear, max level atribute your burst damage skill, hit 20k+ hp and maybe you can stand a chance :frowning: PVP is hardcore and unbalanced atm.

hi! i really interested with archer3 rogue scout3 because of the sinergy that can gives to scout 3…however is there any alternative build that can work well with scout3?

maybe with ranger/qs and sapper/hunter for scout3?
or scout3 and take r7 with can/musk or r6 class like falc/sr?

pls bear with me because i dont have much knowledge regarding scout3…but i really interested in this class haha…

thanks!

archer 2 ranger scout 3 rogue*. the ranger barrage for feint and steady aim in general are why this is more value than archer 3.

qs3 builds dont sync well with scout 3 because there are many more options that give more damage to a qs3 build, and this would drown out scout’s damage to essentially just flare shot + running shot. sapper is a r3, so you could technically go archer2/sapper2/scout3, but i assume that would lack overall damage and be extremely position-dependant with its skills (flare, broom trap, multishot). with good party cc-positioning and a linker/cryo-chrono, you’d be very effective in aoe. hunter heavily lacks in pve, mainly on poor interaction with bosses.

scout 3 is ranks 4-6 so your best 1 and done options at r7 are musket/cannon/rogue, or falcon for less damage but more aoe support. other options lack major damage skills, large improvements via more circles of existing ranks chosen, or high uptime skills in general. the main reasons for rogue are noted in the OP though, being capture for party support large burst, sneak hit, and feint+barrage combo.

so…build that works with scout 3 (compared to others)

archer2 ranger scout rogue

scout3 > musk/can

since qs3 and hunter doesnt work really well with scout 3, while sapper and falc can be decent? am i right? xD

anyway…something really is bugging me… is barrage + feint is bug or what? if it is going to be changed…then there is no point on taking ranger for rogue right? so…is it bug?

there has been no confirmation whether it is intended or is a bug. but as of right now ranger is worth it, and if you drop ranger you drop rogue. alternative here would be archer 3 scout 3 musket/cannon i think.

sapper 2 scout 3 takes a dedicated party. but, linker and cryo aoe support with your broom trap and flare shot are decent, while chrono keeps your aoe burst going more often. for sustained damage you spam split arrow between multishots. its aoe is reliant on others, but the r7 falcon route is the opposite, it provides more aoe capability to the others in your party.

i would say these 2 builds are even in their own role for your consideration, but your archer aoe/aoesupport competition for groups does your job with more sustained damage – sapper 2 wugu 2 cannon beats sapper 2 scout 3 by my guess, and the falcon path for scout 3 has to compete with other falconer builds (qs3 musket/cannon) who do far more 1 target than you and actually do damage in a mobile mob situation. if i had to give an opinion on which of these 2 is better, its the sapper 2 scout 3 as long as your immobile damage fits into the group situation.

however, i back dream’s build as top scout 3 that i know of with the cannon/musket at r7 close 2nd. the 2 alternatives here are a step or two down.

ok i will take my time and decide which one will i choose haha (leaning to dream build :D)

sapper 2 /scout 3 is my build , this build destroy fly and ground unit , easy to use because not to many combo using skill , but don’t have burst damage , hard for pvp

archer c3 and scout c3 cannot take rogue?

the reason for rogue in this build is blending ranger c1 and scout c3 together, without ranger, cannon and musket are better at r7 even if only by a bit. too bad dream isnt around any longer to offer an opinion.

but either way archer c2 ranger c1 is stronger than archer c3 for most builds.

And about flareshot 2x? Sneak Hit for more critical rate on builds based on heavy STR? Rogue provides A LOT of dps on single target for scouts3.

I’m a3>scout3>rogue and i’m doing great on everything except on AOE. I’m playing with a Cryo/Chrono, so 2xFlareshot + Split arrow can “”“replace”"" that hole. My single target dps is great with multishot 15 and Twin arrows, both with atributtes50+. Sadly, barrage+feint would fit better because of AoE, but rank8 is near, so a new class with great AoE skills would synergize very well with that build too. If you choose Musk or cannoneer, maybe you will be forced to go circle2.

well ya, rogue is still good without ranger, but it would be slightly subpar to musket/cannon in that case. still standing behind the fact that archer2ranger1 > archer3 alone and with rogue included by even more.

making an assumption on r8, musket/cannon beat archer 3 for this build. but somewhere dream made comments on going rogue 2 if the r8 new classes werent better.

honestly, my opinion for guessing about new archer classes is that r8 will be just as strong if not stronger than musket/cannon, but maybe not their circle 2. and if pied piper comes as a hidden class, itll have a small class selection path due to its supposed Int scaling.

more thoughts on pied piper if int scaling. if its mainly utility/cc it can fit in many builds as an option of that sort, but if its damage that would be different. people might have to build based on ignoring dex (to keep from being MAD - multiple stat/attribute dependent) thus rogue/wugu come to mind for forcing or preferring str focus, but musket/cannon/archer2 and their crit-happiness may be subpar for pied piper. either way i think scout3 would fit with a utility piper possibility - since you have distortion and camoflauge as utility already, and damage piper possibility - this build runs rogue.

A grounded skill with a heavy dps and long cd for rank8 make another huge sinergy too. For me, capture is a great skill for itself. If arrowrain thats have been leaked (or even another skill for r8 archers) work as grounded, we will be able to choose single dps hardcore with 2x flareshot or more AoE dps with rank8 grounded aoe skills.

Really hoping for that, i dont wanna re-roll just for ranger. lol

I notice that all hidden are located on ranks with a Moneymakerclass (Pardoner, Alchemist) or the guild class (Templar), giving a second choice, the dps class or the hidden, for those who dont wanna go for money/utility path. Archers dont have this, so rank 8 can be hiddensupport(Pied) + moneycraftclass(Appraiser) + dpsclass?

Well, this discussion is pointless for now, but I like to discuss about future ranks! x)

if new classes give enough skills (highly likely by rank 9 and 10) that we cant use ranger damage skills well (particularly barrage) – say, 3x barrage every gap where flare/capture is down – then archer3 will beat ranger1 just by a hair since you still get value from steady aim. in this situation, unless there are more deployable aoes to take advantage of as rogue in the future, ranger’s value falling would mean rogue’s value falling below musket/cannon by a bit. there is a situation that works as an exception here: other classes at later ranks that provide needed support for capture, aka more deployables or more cooldown reduction.

would steady aim be worth a dead circle in a build though (assuming barrage isn’t used enough due to lack of filler time with future class skills) the answer is yes and no. yes the 10% buff will last regardless of what happens in the future, and depending on how damage scales with future lvls and ranks it may provide more damage than the 3rd circle of archer ever could. on the other hand, 1 buff is hard to make up for 15 skill points used in a class.

ok small update// Need some help…thing.

So im scout C2 now (yay) having fun not using split arrow (im being sarcastic) But I just picked up Flare shot lvl 10 and perspective distortion 1 ala the skill tree build.

Now onto the actual problem, when im channeling the Perspective distortion my SP drains normally (still too much imo but whatever), my main problem is if I cancel the skill or I get attacked, out of distortion my SP pool will continue to drain until it hits 0. And I cant cancel it by sitting or jumping either.

IDK how to put in a bug report or whatnot so if someone can tell me how or if this is even a bug that would help a lot. Also before you suggest that I put in a ticket, I don’t know how. so “Hey just put in a ticket” reply aint gunna work. Thanks in advance!~