Barrage itself is a good AOE w/ or w/o Feint. It just becomes an extremely potent bossing skill with Feint or a single combo to sweep those tanky mobs with 100k+ HP at higher level grinding areas.
Split Arrow’s biggest weakness is being limited to just 3 targets but Barrage can increase it’s AOE capability as long as you stack AOE attack ratio, ALTHOUGH if you’re following this exact same build, I do not suggest AOE attack ratio because a Scout C3 focused build should not be focusing on the classes around it. Flare Shot is true AOE, Split Arrow is not affected by AOE attack ratio as well.
Ok so im about to reroll into this build just had a few questions.
For stats I don’t think I can justify going pure STR without any access to anything but a couple of lvl 3 green gems and a skull bow from my other archer (maybe a couple other things but not sure.)
3:1 seems alright and will definitely help given my lack of high level gems//“nice stuff” what would you think about doing 3:1 until about 100 dase dex then going full STR? also like I cant deal with no con. Its wonderfull that people can gear themselves with stuff for more hp but I don’t see how im going to make it to rank 6+ with 4K hp cuz bad gear//no monies.
Just thinking, if your low on funds, and dislike sp potting alot, will leaving split arrow at lvl1 be sufficient for leveling?, will that 300-400 dmg extra really make a diff?
Invest 30 stat points on CON. That should make it fine not taking any HP boost items/gears. 3:1 is my build at the moment is the evasion and decent crit rate from it is great. Although I still have a plan to reset to pure STR eventually.
Incoming math. This comparison is considering your base damage is at average 1200 patk.
Lv1 Split Arrow
100%+332
332/1200 = 27.6% improvement on both the main hit and bounced hits.
Lv5 Split Arrow
100%+631
631/1200 = 52.6%
But let’s say you want to think ahead using end-game stats, 1800 base patk,
Lv1 Split Arrow
100%+332
332/1800 = 18.4%
Lv5 Split Arrow
100%+631
631/1800 = 35%
As you can see, it’s still quite the drastic improvement. You can farm fast anyways so spending silvers on Lv10 CSP won’t be a problem.
It’s really common for most players to be misled by some game mechanic. If I say that Spiral Arrow also has 100% modifier each yet it has some weaker hits. Does that mean the skill is actually weak and the modifier is a lie? The answer is no.
IMC sometimes puts some unnecessary damage randomizer on skills just so it improves game aesthetics. This especially can be seen on Seism and Spiral Arrow, of course there are other skills too.
To check how these modifiers actually work is you test your damage output using a weapon with the smallest damage variance + using a -max attack gem on it to make the damage output more stable.
After that, you can now finally test the damage of a skill. It’s better to do this w/o any crit rate or any additive damage blabla etc.
So for example, I tested Twin Arrows. Let’s say it did a total damage of 200.
I then equipped a head costume with +40 patk and did another damage test. It became a total of 280 damage.
So as you can see, I did not test how the damage fluctuates but instead checked the total damage dealt and how it improved. Having an 80 damage increase with just an additional 40 patk means the modifier is 200%. 40*2 = 80.
IMO FLoki giving away statements like “The second hit from it do less damage than the first one…” makes you look naive as you would only look at the cover then judge. I’m not trying to offend you again, I’m just being frank here.
Thanks. Always appreciate the figures. Still using the mana pots given from missions and dinnt need to buy any yet. But I’m pretty darn sure sp will be used alot when split arrow finally comes in.
Got +5 9 potent(before buying in market) khasti bow for 750k on Telsai servers. Seemed like a good buy and I’ll need to go for gem farming soon I guess, do you guys usually burn mats or hunt gems to enhance them?
Upgrading alone to +5 already cost around 600k+ so it’s a good buy~
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buy and burn mats
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Farming mats or gems? Ain’t nobody got time fo that. Especially with a Scout C3 where you are most efficient at getting silvers really fast so you could just buy what you want.
Imo, the second hit just dont take elemental damage into account, I was talking about that with a archer c3>scout c3 friend, and he just said the same thing. My first char was a archer c3, and I saw that all the time…
I cant test twin arrow again rigth now, as my first char was deleted long ago, I will just take my in game friend and my past experience IN GAME with this skill.
Any archer c3 is wellcome to say Im wrong, anyway, Im 99% sure that the second hit never takes elemental damage into account.
Also, I usually test stuff with broken crossbows or with low lvl crossbows, as I can use the small damage variance, but I will try to use - max attack gem to get better results, nice idea, thanks.
PS> twin arrows changed a lot from ICBT2
Found a video.
See for yourself at 1:57 to 1:59. And again at 4:21 to 4:22. And AGAIN at 5:44. MORE AT 5:46. AND AGAIN at 5:58. Want more? Again at 6:22. More: 6:30 ~ 6:31, 6:32, 6:33.
I could not see just a SINGLE time when the second hit does more damage than the first one.
Ahhh, that is what you meant. It’s like the same case for Backstab. The 2 hits are just considered 1 hit thus it only applies additive bonuses from Arde, Blessing, etc once.
Same case with Seism. Spiral Arrow must be special case though as you said because it applies Blessing per tick? Though I actually don’t believe that, I still think Spiral Arrow is considered 1 hit with 600% modifier and has a damage randomizer.
It’s just that I can’t think of a reason why Spiral Arrow gets a special treatment when it comes to multi-hit skills that are actually just considered a single hit.
You are correct in that Spiral Arrow is a single hit skill with a hidden 600% modifier. I went and tested this with my manamana just now and the damage difference always comes out to be 1.67k and always applied to the initial first hit. Secondary hits (ticks 2 through 5) had the same variance with or without manamana.
The easiest way to tell how a skill behaves is to look at how the target’s HP is modified as it takes damage. If the HP bar moves in a single instance, the skill is faux-multi hit.
Multi-shot for example is a true multi-hit ability as a target’s HP bar will tick down multiple times.
