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Hunter/Falconer build. Need tips and help

Class and Rank Archer
#1


I’ve read around a few threads and on other websites regarding Hunters, and there’s been a lot of talk about how wonky the AI is and that your pet derps around after the enemy is dead if you use Coursing, as if the enemy was still alive. Things like that, but fundamentally I’d like to consult if this tree is okay. I’m gearing towards more of a support, utility archer.

I’m not getting Swift Step either seeing how it’s not very useful in the long run later in the game for my build since I’ll be very ability based instead of auto attacking.

I’ve considered Archer 2 for Heavy Shot for more control, but ultimately I think personally I would like to play a QS with Pavise for a more defensive oriented style. Also I believe Caltrops don’t affect flying enemies, but with Snatching from Hunter that could change right?

As for not adding Praise, I initially considered it but I’ve read so much about how you don’t really rely on your pet’s auto attacks but your own Hunter skills. If I ever add it it might just be for the attribute.

As for my build, I am deciding between 2:1 CON SPR, or should I have some STR in it? And I am not considering DEX since I don’t think pet skills can critical, right?

The 1 in Pointing is for the attribute as well. As for Circling in the Falconer circle, I’ve read most mobs AOE defense isn’t higher than 5, so three levels of this would be sufficient I hope? Or is this skill not very useful at all?

Opinions would be welcome, this is for my alternate character, I play a wizard mostly so I’m very new to the archer tree. Lemme know where I need changes or things I’m wrong about(particualrly Swift Step).

Also, when will I get my pet? I don’t have one on my main nor my alt, will I get one automatically?

#2

No one at all? Bump.

#3

Don’t be a hunter/falconer.

#4

Don’t be Hunter.

/20$

#5

They just fixed the Coarsing problem this patch, hopefully it’s better this time around.

I’d consider Archer 2 over QS 1, Swiftstep makes a nice party buff as well as it’s 25% crit bonus and Multi-Shot 10 is just nice all around to help you pull through your companions gimicky AI. Ranger 1 is pretty good too if you wanna skill spam more.

Snatching is good and all, but that 100% bonus damage with bow on flying is even better. Plus flying bosses will get hit by traps anyways.

…you’ll survive better and spam even more hunter skills I guess…? You won’t need a crap ton of SPR, SP pots exist and campfire between spawn times on later levels will make SP consumption not a huge issue. Put a limit on how much HP you’ll need while getting offensive stats. Companions have their own set of stats and you’ll need to raise it on your own. They also crit.

If you’re planning to Hunter 3, Pointing is pretty irrelevant with a 10 minute long ongoing fear inflict companion that puts enemies in fear for 8 seconds. Circling is useful, look for vids if you need some details. I’m not a big fan with Hunter+Falconer though.

You’ll got a freebie ticket when you job change to Hunter/Falconer.

#6

Swiftstep gives critical bonus? I don’t see that anywhere tho, is that true? Between Snatching and Praise. Pets can proc crits even when doing Hunter skills? As in not auto attacks?

As for pointing, I’m not sure, your pet is unable to do anything else for that 90 seconds? Or can you use another skill to cancel it out?

I’ll search for some Falconer videos, from what I’ve saw previously there’s a KTOS person who is a Falconer+Hunter and it looked okay to me.

#7

Circle 2 Archer has an attribute that gives 25% bonus crit at max. Yupp all offensive Hunter skills can crit. Again it’s based on your companions stats.

Except going around debuffing? They’re still normal.

#8

So what you mean is, what Pointing does is, whenever an enemy steps within AI range, your pet will rush over to debuff it with the skill, and once it’s done that it’ll do something else or behave normally? Sorry but the skills are just so vague and difficult to comprehend.

And oh okay, so that’s the allure of C2 Archer compared.

#9

Yupp although Pointing has more freedom compared to Growling, Growling is still an awesome AoE lockdown.

And my bad on the “Again it’s based on your companions stats” part, it’s actually based on your own stats. So building more STR and DEX will help your companion’s damage a lot. I also misjudged Snatching during iCBT, it looks like a powerful tool to many flying mobs, both normal and boss.

#10

I know Snatching actually deals good supplementary DPS as well, making it worthwhile to actually level. So I guess I will need STR then… Perhaps 1:1 STR CON and some SPR just for good measure, I’m not sure. The cooldowns of the spells seem so low, there will be a lot of spamming I feel.

#11

[quote=“jhoang128, post:9, topic:204614, full:true”]
And my bad on the “Again it’s based on your companions stats” part, it’s actually based on your own stats. So building more STR and DEX will help your companion’s damage a lot.[/quote]Rush Dog counts from pet attack.
Coursing, Retrieve and Snatching - from Hunter’s attack.

#12

Nice to know there’s more information, do you know anything about Circling and other Hunter skills?

#13

Circling + Coursing + Sniper = 9999 :smiley:

Now i’m on hunter c1 going to c2, don’t waste ur stats in SPR, make DEX / STR

#14

Do you spam your skills a lot? Notably Rush Dog? It has a low CD and high damage. I assume it’s very good to spam. Mana is not an issue?

#15

Nope, my for-fun Hunter (future Falconeer, despite all the negative talks) is only c2 currently.

Btw, Snatching is dealing 3 strikes on lvl1 and 11 on lvl3.

I went A2 for crit rate buff from Swift Step (also Evasion buff is nice) & Multi Shot attribute for 50% cast time.
Btw, Coursing, Retrieve and Rush Dog are Strike type: +50% vs Plate, -25% vs Leather. Dunno about Snatching.

Though, Quarrel Shooter sound interesting in theory, if you gonna rely on Rush Dog.
Con gonna give you blocks.
Also, to spam Stone Shot, which have nice modifiers, you need some Con or Str, coz damn rocks for it are heavy. It’s also very mana consuming, if you level up the skill. Btw, Stone Shot is basically Heavy Shot + Oblique Shot combined together.
Deploy Pavise could be nice to aggro some mobs and attack with a pet.

But here’s a underwater rock of being hunter for you:
It’s pain in the ass to keep you pet’s level on your own level. It doesn’t get exp from exp cards. You’ll have to grind or it won’t do damage.
So, if it’s low level, defence penatly gonna kick in for your pet and it’s gonna do 1 damage.
It’ll do (1 + rush dog additional damage)*1.5 with rush dog, coz rush dog’s additional damage is counted after defence for some odd reason. It’s still good damage, but if your companion were on level with mobs - it could be even better.

I usually auto-attack (I have low mana and have to keep Swift Step up) and rush dog/snatch for multiple mobs or coursing/retrieve for very fat mobs. Full Draw is great, it’s your pocket mini Joint Penalty.

Btw, Arde dagger’s fire attack is counted for each tick of Snatching/Coursing/Retrieve.

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#16

I think the pet level is not a big deal, as from what I read the numbers on Rush Dog, Coursing etc already are huge, it will be just like support mages such as Linkers and Chronomancers, where they are full CON, relying on base damage and attribute of spells to deal damage. Of’c if the pet is good leveled he can dish out his own part on top of the skill damage.

I love Full Draw so far, but not sure if I’m using it right. I usually hit the target in the front and it links to the one behind, and the most I get is 2 even though there’re many enemies behind them.

Rush Dog/Snatching/Coursing/Retrieve are all single target right to confirm? And I’m not sure what you meant by 3 strikes on Lv1 and 11 on lv3.

#17

yep i use rush dog every time

my build Archer - Ranger - Hunter - Scout - Hunter c2 - Falconer - Muskeeter

#18

It literally deal damage 3 times @ skill lvl1, and 11 times @ skill lvl 3.
(Attack+skill damage-defence)*(modifiers)*(other modifiers)*etc * times
Coursing level2 - 16 strikes.

Rush dog and Snatching are small cleaves, just like Ice Bolt.
Coursing/Retrieve - single target.
They also crit.

#19

So I should definitely rank up Snatching then.

@Fleeur You have mana issues? Or just spam mana potions?

Thanks for replies.

#20

np i spam rush dog - barrage and multi shot