The fully transparent claimed statement that you stand against people thinking that the exploit exist today is based on other people saying that all those weapons are the result of “pure luck”, “money” and “the diamond anvil event”.
So, if i understand correctly, your statement, supported by those testimonies, is right, and people who claims the opposite are wrong. Basically, the people thinking like you are swimming in the truth while the others are drowning in the abyss lake of ignorance and untruth.
Like I said, 4 of those 7 posts explicitly answers with explicit words saying that the enhancement exploit people keeps talking about doesn’t exist.
Then 3 of those answers to “is this exploit or not” by explaining why it isn’t exploit.
I feel they’re valid enough. You can exclude the 3 if you want. I feel the amount I provided with explicit comments is already enough to show that my sentence can be valid.
Also, please, don’t change my argument.
I say that many old players confirms that the exploit people keep talking about is highly unlikely to exist. And only that.
Any other piece you add to your answer as a fallacy or anything else have nothing to do with me.
I answered your question now.
To keep discussing further, now I ask, may you answer mine?
I want you to prove your 99%, based on the interventions that are part my 2.4k posts created, one by one, displaying proof for each one, thanks.
Can you do it so we can continue our discussion?
I already provided the needed sources to confirm my claim, now you should do the same for yours.
People claims fact 1, while other people claims fact 2.
You’re agree with the fact 1, and, during your argument, you make use of people claiming the fact 1 in order to support your statement. Statement which is supposed to be transparent since you never ever use fallacious idea to support your point.
I react to this, after reading you asking someone to stay transparent.
Your answer, basically, is that fact 1 is true and fact 2 isn’t, and so, your statement and argument are legit.
I disagree with that, plain and simple. Being subjective about which fact is true, and use it as an argument doesn’t make it transparent.
To stay clear and help you understand, i think this exploit doesn’t exist anymore, but i have some high supicions about possible other type of exploit on weapon upgrade. That is my opinion, but since you re misreading my point about your contradictions, i felt the need to clarify.
Since you’re going read all my 2400 posts to prove your 99% you’ll eventually understand that.
And my opinion is that after fixing the channel crash issue by saving the weapon state right after it’s enhanced prevents you from being able to manipulate the result of an enhancement.
I’m not going to go deeper into this argument here.
Once you read all my posts you’ll also find more about why I think this way.
Then maybe we can simply agree to disagree and suspend judging this topic until we can prove either of the sides.
So, like I said, I’ll only continue this discussion after you answer my question since I answered yours.
I want you to prove your 99%, based on the interventions that are part my 2.4k posts created, one by one, displaying proof for each one, thanks.
Using the 99% as an anti trigger system since you dont want to legitimately see that i was talking about your tendancy to ask people to stay transparent with facts and proof. Can you say that i’m wrong by saying that in your differents argumentations, on different forum subjects, you tend to do that ? Is it bad to ask that to people ?
I think we agree that this isn’t bad.
But since i read in the same post that you ask someone to act like this, while a few responses before you just used a biased statement, i pointed that out.
Is it that hard for you to admint that, at some point, you may be not in the truth ?
Is it that hard for you to accept your mistake ?
Nope, I didn’t. Sorry to not match your expectations.
That doesn’t matter.
If I’m asking you to prove your point it means I’m not going to support your argument nor contest it until proof is presented.
You claimed it on your own free will. By such I ask you to either prove it otherwise I can take that you’re lying.
Or you can just go back with what you said and apologize.
I don’t mind either way.
I just want to have a fair discussion, you asked me to bring source and prove my claim - I did that.
I now ask you the same, to bring source and prove your claim:
I want you to prove your 99%, based on the interventions that are part my 2.4k posts created, one by one, displaying proof for each one, thanks.
Can you do it so we can continue our discussion?
Once you read all my 2400 posts you’ll understand more about me and I probably won’t need to explain what you asked. As for if I do need to explain we’ll only know after you finish reading all of those.
Since you’re starting to be rude, i’ll be a bit more bitter.
I don’t want to offend you, but i feel that from the top of your godwin point mountain you acutally enjoy being condescendent to people and despise them :
Through different post i read from you, i feel like you want people to come back to the game, and not leave it. It’s a good thing, but you unintentionally do the exact opposite. You may not get it, but you’re actually taking people away from the game by your own, at your own level of influence of course, a few players, i mean nothing to compare with the people leaving because of the horrible imc politic about this game. But still, i am sure you do make people go away just by your tendancy to talk to people with despise and haughtiness.
I hope, for the better of the game, you will somehow realise that.
I won’t read your 2400 post, i think that the people who read the discusssion we had have their own opinion by now, on who used fallacious process.
Ive seen at least a +17 untradable black horn and a +16 primus rifle with both full potential in just this week. Not to mention his +25 staff (dont remember pot) ofc.
That’s why I was asking the guy earlier if they could give some info.
This is actually reason enough to gather data and make a good report to STAFFs.
Do you have any more info or screenshots I can try looking at or any info when to log in/etc so I can check and get info to report? (Or you actually report.)
Currently I stopped looking much at it after this:
Since reporting for RMT won’t do much.
But could you share anything that can help me actually check this so we can gather data and ask if STAFFs can check for suspicious things?
I’m sure they can find if there’s something once we actually can gather info.
This is why people quit the game more and more
People running around with +16s and +21 with no potential lost while my friends cant even upgrade to +11 without losing almost all durability
And its always the same kind of people with the overenhanced items with no potential lost
If you think there is no exploiting going on you’re just ignorantly lying to yourself
So may you elaborate in any non-stupid way why you think there’s any exploit currently?
Process:
Hit anvil.
Anvil breaks.
Weapon saved to the DB.
Your weapon isn’t changed until step 3 and on step 3 the result is already saved before you get feedback on client-side.
Where would an exploit happen there?
For example, as much I understand the weapons above are suspicious as hell:
What if all the guy’s doing is actually a sort of ritual of enhancing weapons at X time or something like this?
Not defending the guy but: If he actually figured any pattern. Would you call the ritual an exploit?
Or would you discard it “because RNG, go try the lotto”?
Kind of complicated right?
Ok. Why I’m asking this?
Because you can’t manipulate the enhancement result. If you want to exploit enhancements all you can do is try to manipulate what happens before that.
How?
Either sure-shot prediction in any way or rituals.
That’s the only way I think you can manipulate enhancement in any way but every single time I talk about it it’s discarded because in the end it’s all pure luck and nothing is sure-shot in “normal rituals”.
So, may any of you that strongly believes any enhancement-related exploit exists currently explain where do you think the “exploit” happens? And how would it be?
Flip a coin 25 times. Did you get heads every time? Probably not.
Flip a coin 100 times. Was there any point where you got heads 25 times in a row? Certainly possible.
Flip a coin 1000 times. Was there any point where you got heads 25 times in a row? Probably, in fact, maybe even more than once.
Anybody who has a trick is full of ■■■■. That isn’t to say an exploit might exist, but anyone–literally anyone–can get “lucky” if they refine enough gear over the course of weeks, or months. Most people just don’t try. It’s all numbers, it’s all averages. It’s all regression to mean.
No i would call it “game is coded like golden dog****”
No it isn’t
The guy is exploiting.
Some of the game mechanics are broken.
Oh well, you should have studied the code of the game very deeply in order to claim such a transparent statement, even if you are an accomplished “programmer”.
There is no need for people to explain why they think there could be some exploit, get over it, as said patsch2, they just leave. You can try as much as you can, but, for example, when Fenatte post 4 screens of the same guy with fishy weapons, it’s more than enough to make people leave. They just think it’s not legit, and they could be right.
Otherwise I’ll take you just plain lie in every post you do and will never post any source for your claims.
Are you going to avoid reading my 2400 posts or apologize for your lies? < I know this bit triggers you, great tool right? You’ll now ignore me and don’t answer a single thing about your original claim c:
