Tree of Savior Forum

High3 vs Barb 3

cartar have 50% modifier on each hit.
seism have 70% on the whole dmg.

for higher level cartar dmg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seism.
I can hit 50k with each cartar overheat.
i doubt you can with seism. even with lunge and cleave.

wrong again, no surprise

Can you provide me your data, so I can do some math.

@Turbosodomy
New warcry can reach 630 PA scalable with DoV, so more thant twice your skull swing.

my doppel have about 2k-ish atk, 600ish crit atk. 50% cartar. To socket I did 12kish cartar each hit. thats about 50k on each overheat.

Everything of meaning, yeah sure until you found out 300+ monsters have 300k hp to work with, stun places are actually useful there.

More people are playing pelt3 in case you didn’t know, so that itself is another armor break.

Lol man, you seems akisera testing things in mobs weak against slash damage. Cartar stroke 1 or 3?

They’re immune to stun.

You’ve never played TOS clearly- either that or you’re a pathological liar.

I’m playing on Telsiai, Pelt3 is an actual meta now. Some of them are probably trying murm-shinobi.

No point in lying, I gain nothing out of it.

It’s basically the same type of modifier as seism. Although it does also get extra damage from the knockback attribute. It’s fairly easy to test by unequiping weapon, finding a target’s def value, knowing the enhance attribute ect. I believe it’s also documented on the ā€˜Damage Guide’ thread.

cartar max 3. i just push the button and release it as I see level x. so depends on lagness.

lol I hit about 6kish on leather. thats 24k on each overheat
and 8kish on cloth. thats 32k on each overheat

you cant hit that much with seism.

That’s nothing- skyliner scales so insane it’s not unusual to get 100k per overheat.

yea, idk how they got that much PAtk.
I can only get up to 20k each hit, thats already on cloth =(

For hit 6k seems your PA is less than 2k I would say 1,3k.

Oh wait. Since I entered in this point cartar stroke and seism, I stated the utility and not the damage.

Seism has no whatsoever utility since strong elites are immune to stun anyway.

cartar can stop monster movement for about 1s. its just 1s less than seism stun. work on all monster who dont have pain barrier.

for me cartar overall a better skill than seism.
doesnt matter though if you make hl-bar3. you get both anyway

Agreed.

@Turbosodomy
I don’t care about filler rank damage since I will never use it. :wink:

One of the strongest skills available to swordsmen is ā€œfiller rank damageā€?
Oh you’re BR no wonder

So you fell better using cartar stroke than compose?
Very smart.
Say hello to Epee Garde.

I’m not into writing music.

lol you will always use highlander skill.
cross cut have these stop mechanic too.
skyliner hit like truck.
vertical slash does almost the same dmg with muskeeter skills if you place lot of debuffs.