Btw, Sky Liner works with other bleeding skills (Broadhead, Keel Hauling etc.). Only Cross Cut is limited and this is another Highlander 3 con.
Seism add 5 AoE and Cartar stroke add only 1.
Aoe AR is different from hitbox
@MattBR
Thanks, I will edit.
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sorry bro, i hate cartar, all charging skill that make you unable to move is suck, if the boss charging like mineloader this will be useless, same like stabbing
i prefer instant skill that flexible on any mob , like lunge, seism, cleave, skyliner etc
i just want to confirm
bleed+ skyliner >> stun + cleave or not ???
and instant skill that can be spam on rotation is better than charging or channeling skill that can be interupted anytime
Itās just a preference, because before VS, Cartar Stroke was my highest damage against Mineloader (between 18K~20K).
Yes, but only why skyliner hit 2 times. If skyliner was only 1 hit, helm chopper + cleave would do more damage because cleave get a 150% modifier on stuned targets, and skyliner 100% on bleed.
that mean cartar suck, against a plate type deal only 18k-20k
iām more interested on modifier
so which one have bigger modifier
bleed + skyliner or stun + cleave
thats all
from my pov, high3 barb1 win over barb3 high1
coz cleave also give modifier to skyliner and vertical slash
but in high1 barb3, high1 doesnt contribute anything good except 50% crit att
ok so 400% modifier is bullshit, it just 200% ???
i thought skyliner only hit once like cleave
crosscut that hit twice
2 hits each charge.
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hit twice on bleed only, or also on normal??
coz tosbase skyliner only hit once
i guess i got trapped by tosbase again
In both cases.
You didnāt noticed 2 slash moves?
Tosbase videos show skills dealt in a low hp mob
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Cartar Stroke deals 4 hits in every lvl. 18K~20K * 4 in 1 charge.
wow 18k *4
damn, i always traped with the fake multi hit
seism, earthwave
@Kascly thanks bro for the list, this gonna be usefull for my alt
Hey OP, youāre rekindling the second greatest swordsman war since 2h swords were reinvented, be carefull with those questions in the forums.
Now on topic, OP;
First, the classic doppel path has that free rank, and corsair is as good of a choice as any other. If your objective is simply PvP, it may be the only choice even.
But before you get into which class you will put 3 ranks into, you must know that:
Highlander isnāt only SS or CG
Barbarian aināt only cleave and warcry either
Going highlander you will get a couple of skills that will never get old. Seriously. Crosscut will always be a Bleed enabler, crossguard will be your only defensive choice, Crow will keep you alive against magic mobs, and vertical slash only condition to damage is the amount of debuffs on target, perfect for worldboss and dungeon boss fights; Skullswing can only get better, and cartar stroke is your go to damage source against plate enemies. The thing is, only VS and cartar Stroke are good damage dealers between those skills.
Going Barbarian your kit will be much more damage heavy. Warcry gives a very heavy buff, and cleave will give you 50% more damage, no questions asked. Seism has great damage and area of effect, and pouncing does very high damage by itself. The thing is that you have poor CC, and your skills have mostly no scaling.
Are you gonna lose much damage? Thatās a hard question. If you could always land your skills, then yes, you will. But if youāre doing the classic (Maybe only viable right now) STR doppel, thatās not gonna happen. You will spend a fair bit of time kitting monsters, landing some skills between Pain barrier and cyclone cooldowns. You canāt exploit cleave debuff if youāre rooked, or rooking someone OP, so in your case iād say no, you arenāt gonna lose too much damage. Maybe your damage potential will be lower, but your actual damage wonāt change that much
But I donāt really have actual proof. Ask @MattBR, I think he can guide you better
And the most important thing:
Donāt trust in akisera 
, he still try to state you can be top dps without warcry with this build sw>hl>barb3>dop2.
Until today I donāt understand with he took seism 15 and warcry 0. Its the same to get highlander 3 and donāt take skull swing.
wow just wow
so much wow for this oneā¦wkwkwkwk
i guess iām not the only one that got IMCāed by seism
@namewasveryshort
we need this kind of discussion
so no more ppl got trolled by fake multi hit and to avoid reroll
for me. iām gratefull for those enlightmen from highlander path
coz i rely too much on tosbase
this is already proven. specially against WBs. but I still believe Barb can hold its own on non-bleedable bosses.
Boss = Highlanders, Mobbing = Barb.
Seism was never meant for damaging, well at least in my case I never count on that as a damage skill, but as a CC skill. Itās good enough for early gaming tho.
High1-Barb3 still gets access to that.
actually you get alot out of High1. You get Cartar, Crown and Cross Guard. Since Iām not running a heavy str doppel, 5 pts in each of those are already enough. Cartar is still the best strike skill for swordsman imo.
but really itās all about how you want your character to play out. the points are already given out there. its really a matter of preference.
I run a Heavy Dex Doppel build with no DoV. I may not do burst damage but I do consistent damage. I can stand in front of the boss and deal damage without kiting much, which is just the way I like it.
facepalm
/20facepalms
lol Iām used to that reaction. but guess what? zero fcks given. Iāll play it my own way. 
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just donāt advertise it to other people plz.