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High3 vs Barb 3

true, but this deadly highlander skill will only be a filler
dont have any sinergy to the next class
except skull swing

eventually barb3 with next class ridiculous att skill will provide more utility
IMHO, CMIIW

which should be the trend if they plan on releasing 10 Ranks. With the power creep on R8, damage of the lower ranks will be obsolete, but the buffs and utility would not be. Honestly I’m fine with they way Barb is right now. The only thing I am really wishing now is for Pouncing to do some damage even when not moving. Like Cata’s Rush.

Bleeding crown and Crossguard is also good utility if you ask me

crossguard is good, if only imc remove weapon restriction

restriction is stupid to begin with…

just make skill scale with weapon mastery, but instead, the skill totally grayed out

yeah I wanna make a Hoplite-Goon 2h sword wielder. stabbing mobs with a big @ss sword.

yea, stabbing so base str + phydmg still work…
use spear so you gain the skill dmg and watever attribute , mastery etc

or best of all, skill-auto-weapon-change!


i tried shooting arrow with barehand archer, its funny~

try stabbing with barehand next~ huehuehue

barehand rush sounds like rodeo~

I’ve done that with my Highlander. Felt like I was Saber from Fate series with that invisible sword. lul

Gentlemen, @migzzz @biowolfmon1, I’ve posted a screenshot above of my Vertical Slash damage against a WB. Just to complete your conclusion.

i cant see the image

sweeettt damage
can you explain to me how to get that much damage
how many debuff on mineloader
your p att
your weapon
your crit rate
your build
because this is better than barb3

1- I don’t remember. In a WB fight they always reach the limit.
2- 1262-1577 without DoV, Gung Ho etc.
3- +7 Vienie Twin Blade.
4- 328.
5- 4:1:2.

how much vertical slash attribute
also, this is the new vertical slash attribut that 30%/debuff right???

anyone know max debuff on boss ???

50 and yes, +30% for each debuff. Alone I can deal around 30K in a single charge with Skull Swing + Crown + Cross Cut + Zornhau and we’ll get a new debuff with Doppel C3.

bro, you just convinced me that high3 > barb3

I never noticed a Barb C2 > Doppel against a WB in Silute server to totally agree with you (a few Doppels try to kill them), but I already guaranteed cubes to my mates.

lol, i got trap by seism
if highlander was beast like this i probably took highlander path
tosbase never reveal skyliner 400% modifier
and vertical slash was 10% /debuff when it first release

I played barb 3 and high 3.
Barbarian 3 pros:
-Great AoE for mobbing
-2 source of power increasing
-Skills with high base damage
-Stuns + slash debuff
Barbarian 3 cons:
-Excluding Seism, all his skills has small hitboxes.
-Helm chopper + cleave deals a good amount of damage but is still a single hit skill
-Many mobs can resists stun
-Pouncing can be interrupted by basic magic CC and enjoy almost nothing from cleave debuff(since you will miss many attacks because you will run like a desesperated girl)
-Excluding Helm chopper and pouncing, barb skills or are single hit or fake multi hits.

Highlander 3 pros:
-Plenty of debuffs to deal with many situations(only stun missing) and more damage with Vertical Slash
-Don’t care about monster defence(skull swing)
-Crown can make mobs/bosses deals 1 dmg on you.
-Skyliner has a great boost on bleeding targets
-Can defend yourself with a 2 hand sword
Highlander 3 cons:
-Tiny hitboxes(only cartar stroke has a big one)
-Skyliner does a not interesting damage in non bleed mobs/bosses
-Has no buffs to increase your attack
-Cross Cut bleed cannot be applied in mobs/bosses type plant and zombie
(If I remember more I will edit here)

Now let’s compare some points:
-HL3 has skull swing and Barb 3 has frenzy and warcry.
-HL3 has Vertical Slash and Barb 3 has pouncing.
-HL3 has bleed and Barb 3 has stuns which increase other skills damage.
-HL3 has Crown too deal with magic and Barb 3 has cleave to increase slash damage.
HL3 has wagon wheel for knockback and Barb 3 has pouncing with knock back attribute.

Both are almost the same, some scenarios one can outshine other.

@biowolfmon1
Skyliner has a 100% modifier(2x more damage).

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Cartar Stroke does like 4x the damage that seism does.
Even though HL only has the 1 huge aoe hitbox it’s still better aoe than everything in barb combined.