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Have they already ruined guild wars?

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#13

Glad to hear they did it.

Guild wars should be a source lf entertainment not buttheart. Some people just create guilds for PvE and they don’t like PvP. Prevoius system caused too much trouble to uninterested players.

I’d rather prefer that they implemented Guild Wars Tournaments or something similar.

So that your guild can participate in it or not, and then it’d be able to declare the war to any participating guild(with certain restrictions) to score points. And in the end there should be some rewards for top guilds.

Also it might be possible to make some “divisions” like diamond golden and silver league so guilds from each league could only declare a war to guilds from the same league with separate ranking and rewards for each league.

This system will encourage people to participate in those events. Also guild members would be able to decide if they want to participate or not.

And there certainly should be some safe zones (like global market etc.) even during those war events or even light PvE only maps with lower rewards.

There are lots of ways how to make GvG fun for everyone and I think this was a first step to make it better.

Before it was simply dangerous to join guild and benefits were meaningless.

Also a good idea might be guild treasury where every member will be able to put money (but not take) and this money will be used for different GvG activities (like tower defense upgrades etc.). Also all upgrades would be lost if tower is destroyed so they shouldn’t be too strong/expensive.

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#14

that civil war is the only reason i am excited to play gvg.

#15

Could always make a separate Open PVP server and a PVE server.

I don’t usually keep up-to-date with Korean patches, but i heard
matchmaking for both pvp and pve team players up from “all servers”?
Which should mean mathmaking waiting times shouldn’t be affected at all, meanwhile open world content would be just what players prefers it to be.

#16

So is this confirmed or is this just a rumor?

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#17

IMC has never said this is a pve focused game and currently the only end game content that is confirmed is pvp. I expect IMC to try and make pvp and pve players happy but please stop pushing your delusions on this game.

#18

Not confirmed. Here’s the “source”: https://www.reddit.com/r/treeofsavior/comments/4ac80b/core_gameplay_questions/
Divini is the one who wrote that they changed guild war declaration.

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GvG consent needed?
#19

I’m alright with this if only because it’d be pretty shitty for a guild of 10 to go up against a guild of 80 players. This allows you to play a little more fairly and at your own pace. Maybe not every guild wants to pvp either, but just to be in a guild.

Right now world pvp wars are broken anyways due to fps mess as well as the fact that you can end up in a party with people you’re supposed to be at war with and mistakenly kill each other in a dungeon run.

It needs adjustments. It’d be nice to have something like WoE eventually. I kinda get the feeling they just added it to give people something to do for now.

#20

Griefing is annoying as hell. This is always the way it goes with open PvP guilds:

One guy gets annoyed another guy for being a jerk and decides to PK him.

PK’d person goes to guild leader and complains.

Guild decides PKer needs to pay for his crimes.

Guild goes and PKs the PKer.

PKer goes to their guild and tells them this other guild is full of jerks and they need to die.

Both guilds are now at war.

Innocent guildies that want nothing to do with the drama are caught in the crossfire.

Innocent guildies are getting griefed by pissed off guilds at war and decide to stop playing the game.

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#21

the scenario you just described could happen with the new system as well. Also that sounds like a lot of fun to me.

#22

Griefing people who just want to be alone is fun? Okay sure. You should play Wakfu cuz that stuff happens ALL THE TIME.

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#23

In the Situation you described no one is innocent

And a easy fix to this would be when a templar creates a guild have a option like Social/War and social guilds can not participate in gvg. Then they don’t have to worry about it.

#24

If you want to be alone, why are you in a guild?

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#25

I really don’t see the fun in wanting to fight people that don’t want to fight. Its not like you can’t fight other guilds anymore at all. Go fight people that want to. Problem solved and everyone is happy. What’s the issue here?

#26

Being alone as in not wanting to be involved in drama, is what I mean. Once you’ve been in several of these guild wars for months on end, it gets old.

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#27

If you don’t want to be PK’d, don’t join a guild.
Why do you idiots insist on eating a cake and keeping it too. Make sacrifices.
Let’s remove field bosses too because obviously strong guilds will keep the respawn times a secret from everyone else.

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#28

I find it fun because i consider players to be a actual threat, lets face it PVE is not dangerous. PVE is more like a puzzle, its fun but once you have solved it once your done with it. Bosses don’t change. Every player however is a completely different fight.

Im not the type of person who goes around attacking people im mostly just waiting for someone to come after me.

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#29

Considering it’s hard to make a guild in this game, not joining a guild is probably a good idea.

#30

OH god nooooooooooo

Wars shouldn’t have any consent :<

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#31

Sadly, there are people that does enjoy killing whatever they can find.

On a personal note, im neutral to this.
The only thing i dislike is the ability to spawn camp other players.

#32

If you haven’t tried Wakfu, you really should. There’s a political system and open PvP, and most guild fights are people fighting over territory, laws, and government positions.